Are there any Taiwanese or Hong Kong idols who did not branch out to Ch and don't post mandated content supporting 1Ch

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The US harms world peace, but it objectively maintains it much more so. We would have had several more world wars by now without US hegemony preventing them. It's not at all the "greatest threat" it's made out to be.

The "debacle" in Afghanistan was started by the Afghans harboring Bin Laden & Al-Qaeda after 9/11. If they had cooperated, there would have been no invasion.

Russia started the Ukraine situation, and Russia alone. They have no business in Ukraine. If you're going to blame the US for invading other countries, I expect you to at least be consistent.

Pelosi's visit was destabilizing, but it also sent a message. Do you see China actually doing anything but posturing? Nope. Because they now know they can't get away with it.

If the genocide you're referring to is the Uyghurs, the evidence is not fabricated and it's rather disgusting that someone would suggest as much. Don't try playing the "your views are shaped by propaganda, but I'm totally unbiased" card. You very clearly are anything but.

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Prevented world wars is just your speculation and opinion that I disagree. Seemingly every year US is fighting or slapping sanctions on some strategic countries and increasing instability. What are some of the reasons for 9/11 hint hint? As for Afghanistan, You don't invade a country and going against international law and occupy it for 20 years just because a country harbor a person of interest. Twenty years of harm and causing tens of thousands of civilian death and stripping a nation's wealth. I'm not denying Russia invade a sovereign state. But it's the Nato expansion led by the US that went against the agreement made when USSR withdrew from eastern Europe. Putin had warned about crossing the red line for years and US and allies just laughed at his warning and forcing his hand. It could have been preventable war. Just ask Colonel Douglas Macgregor who briefly was advisor to Secretary of Defense and advisor to Trump. Your Pelosi excuse is laughable and not going to bother responding. Uyghur genocide is fabricated. Do some investigation plenty of people on youtube like Daniel Dumbrill or website like thegrayzone.

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The US harms world peace, but it objectively maintains it much more so. We would have had several more world wars by now without US hegemony preventing them. It's not at all the "greatest threat" it's made out to be.

The "debacle" in Afghanistan was started by the Afghans harboring Bin Laden & Al-Qaeda after 9/11. If they had cooperated, there would have been no invasion.

Russia started the Ukraine situation, and Russia alone. They have no business in Ukraine. If you're going to blame the US for invading other countries, I expect you to at least be consistent.

Pelosi's visit was destabilizing, but it also sent a message. Do you see China actually doing anything but posturing? Nope. Because they now know they can't get away with it.

If the genocide you're referring to is the Uyghurs, the evidence is not fabricated and it's rather disgusting that someone would suggest as much. Don't try playing the "your views are shaped by propaganda, but I'm totally unbiased" card. You very clearly are anything but.

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This discussion reminded me of the two perspectives between Roger Waters (Pink Floyd cofounder) and CNN Michael Smerconish (smug western propagandist). You share Michael's and I share Roger's.

Roger Waters Uncut. The full interview with Michael Smerconish recorded in Philadelphia, PA - 8/4/22

Roger Waters Uncut. The full interview with Michael Smerconish was recorded in Philadelphia, PA at the Four Seasons Hotel Philadelphia on August 4th, 2022. ...

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Prevented world wars is just your speculation and opinion that I disagree. Seemingly every year US is fighting or slapping sanctions on some strategic countries and increasing instability. What are some of the reasons for 9/11 hint hint? As for Afghanistan, You don't invade a country and going against international law and occupy it for 20 years just because a country harbor a person of interest. Twenty years of harm and causing tens of thousands of civilian death and stripping a nation's wealth. I'm not denying Russia invade a sovereign state. But it's the Nato expansion led by the US that went against the agreement made when USSR withdrew from eastern Europe. Putin had warned about crossing the red line for years and US and allies just laughed at his warning and forcing his hand. It could have been preventable war. Just ask Colonel Douglas Macgregor who briefly was advisor to Secretary of Defense and advisor to Trump. Your Pelosi excuse is laughable and not going to bother responding. Uyghur genocide is fabricated. Do some investigation plenty of people on youtube like Daniel Dumbrill or website like thegrayzone.

Ignoring all the other wrong information- if you deny the Uyghur genocide it already clearly shows how biased you are.

There victim's reports as well as pictures from these camps are freely available on masse these days. Supporting the Chinese Communist Party means supporting this mass murder.

Hence, Kpop starts endorsing the CCP and its propaganda are simply disappointing and putting money over ethics...

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This discussion reminded me of the two perspectives between Roger Waters (Pink Floyd cofounder) and CNN Michael Smerconish (smug western propagandist). You share Michael's and I share Roger's.

Roger Waters is a renowned political propagandist himself, who's given his own biased, inflammatory takes on a great many issues over the years. Even his own former band doesn't like him. So if you want to compare yourself to him, be my guest.

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Prevented world wars is just your speculation and opinion that I disagree. Seemingly every year US is fighting or slapping sanctions on some strategic countries and increasing instability. What are some of the reasons for 9/11 hint hint? As for Afghanistan, You don't invade a country and going against international law and occupy it for 20 years just because a country harbor a person of interest. Twenty years of harm and causing tens of thousands of civilian death and stripping a nation's wealth. I'm not denying Russia invade a sovereign state. But it's the Nato expansion led by the US that went against the agreement made when USSR withdrew from eastern Europe. Putin had warned about crossing the red line for years and US and allies just laughed at his warning and forcing his hand. It could have been preventable war. Just ask Colonel Douglas Macgregor who briefly was advisor to Secretary of Defense and advisor to Trump. Your Pelosi excuse is laughable and not going to bother responding. Uyghur genocide is fabricated. Do some investigation plenty of people on youtube like Daniel Dumbrill or website like thegrayzone.

Under US hegemony following World War 2, the world has seen its most peaceful era since the Roman Empire was ruling Western civilization. It's an objective fact. US foreign policy is far from perfect. Unnecessary wars have been fought, mistakes have been made, but you would not enjoy the alternative. No one would.

Fighting every year? It's not fighting anyone at the moment. Did it sanction Russia? Yes. So did most of the first world. If they had a problem with that, they'd leave Ukraine.

Don't "hint hint" me about 9/11. I know the whole story behind that, going back to Saudi Arabia in the 1960s. Do you? 9/11 was an unjustified first strike (following an equally unjustified attack in 1993), provoking the US into war. There are consequences for terrorism. If you wish to criticize the US for an unjustified war, you really ought to be going after Iraq, because Afghanistan is a fool's errand.

Last I checked, Ukraine is not a NATO member. Therefore there was no NATO expansion there. That is the poorest of excuses for Russian imperialism. And fittingly, Russia is about to actually have more NATO countries on its borders thanks to its own aggression. So I hope it was worth it.

I will not humor or "investigate" genocide denial.

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This is pure conjecture. You can say we don't know for certain she wouldn't do it, but there's zero reason to believe she would support the CCP to make money in China. She's never attempted it or even shown any signs that she would do such a thing. She's never actually promoted in China for that matter. JYPE made her "apologize" because they wanted Twice to promote in China, not Tzuyu. They still got denied.

that’s fine but it goes both ways….I wouldn’t be talking about idols who aren’t promoting in China within the context of non pro China or one China discussion. Or even speculate if they are or aren’t pro China. It’s kind of pointless IMO.