Do you think TWICE international numbers are good for them?

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    TWICE has been focusing internationally lately, but idk for a group with their prestige in kpop, I would think they would do better? They seem to do 4th numbers, qith some actually outdoing them (IVE, SKZ)

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    Nope, IVE and SKZ don't do better than Twice internationally lol. Just check the relevant sources to see. Lol.

    What are they lacking in? They’re the most streamed girl group and second most streamed group on Spotify this year, even though Stray Kids and IVE had comebacks a while back. They’ve been consistently the most streamed girl group everyday.


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    They’ve sold 400k+ of old albums, quadruple that of second place:


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    No. Their numbers are ok. I know onces like to call them a local group to glorify their numbers internationally but now they are flopping locally and doing just ok numbers worldwide. Their whole strategy, image and focus changed and even so their numbers are sightly better than 4th gen groups which considering their 7 years and status in kpop shows that no, their numbers aren't good for them.

    I don't think you can say ive do better. Skz, maybe for whole albums recently? but twice title tracks still do better

    Yeah considering how many groups have had comebacks and literally doing 20-30 fan call events and still trailing behind a group that hasn't promoted since early November. And not just trailing, I mean nearly 500m streams between them and the leading 4th gen girl group(which everyone lies and calls them flops btw for some reason) and yet these 4th gen groups no where to be found.


    Meanwhile Twice doing this while selling out about 130-40 k tickets in the USA and like 150k in Japan in the space of 2 months. What is the excuse for all these groups that are supposedly 'close' to Twice for not doing that too? I mean why can on one hand you compare those 4th genners numbers to say Scientist, but go radio silent when we ask why they have poor views? No domes or stadiums...hell not even able to do small concert halls yet.


    I mean why they only want to compare to Twice's weakest ever release...but never want to compare to the overwhelming numbers? Like the 300k concert tickets in a couple of months...strange.

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    Yeah considering how many groups have had comebacks and literally doing 20-30 fan call events and still trailing behind a group that hasn't promoted since early November. And not just trailing, I mean nearly 500m streams between them and the leading 4th gen girl group(which everyone lies and calls them flops btw for some reason) and yet these 4th gen groups no where to be found.


    Meanwhile Twice doing this while selling out about 130-40 k tickets in the USA and like 150k in Japan in the space of 2 months. What is the excuse for all these groups that are supposedly 'close' to Twice for not doing that too? I mean why can on one hand you compare those 4th genners numbers to say Scientist, but go radio silent when we ask why they have poor views? No domes or stadiums...hell not even able to do small concert halls yet.


    I mean why they only want to compare to Twice's weakest ever release...but never want to compare to the overwhelming numbers? Like the 300k concert tickets in a couple of months...strange.

    So compare Twice with the top groups of 3rd gen that promote actively like BTS, Seventeen and NCT because BP is on hiatus since 2020 but last year they had the better results worldwide and even in SK if we are being honest.

    4th gen are just starting with rookies ggs already surpassing Twice in some metrics.

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    So compare Twice with the top groups of 3rd gen that promote actively like BTS, Seventeen and NCT because BP is on hiatus since 2020 but last year they had the better results worldwide and even in SK if we are being honest.

    4th gen are just starting with rookies ggs already surpassing Twice in some metrics.

    What are they surpassing Twice in besides Korean digitals? And Twice are doing better then Seventeen and NCT in everything besides album sales.

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    So compare Twice with the top groups of 3rd gen that promote actively like BTS, Seventeen and NCT because BP is on hiatus since 2020 but last year they had the better results worldwide and even in SK if we are being honest.

    4th gen are just starting with rookies ggs already surpassing Twice in some metrics.

    Twice are ahead of all of those groups this year in Spotify and Youtube, except BTS. They also have the highest back catalogue sales for any GG. They smash 17 and NCt confortably on Spotify and Youtube. They have charted amazingly digitally in Japan(which only other 3rd gen group who can is BTS) and have managed to enter the top 100 of US charts and UK charts. No other 3rd gen groups beyond BTS and BP have done so...


    of which both of those groups are regarded as far and away international leaders of Kpop. I mean Twice in 2022 already have better back catalogue sales over any GG in history and it's only May, they sold 300k concert tickets in a couple of months(something other GG's have struggled to do) played 3 domes back to back and a couple stadiums in the US....like no other GG in history has done this.


    I mean IVE and their fans also promote Wonyoung as an it girl and most have Twice members even overtook her insta in less than a week and undone 1 year head start lol. But hey I suppose I should expect 4th gen groups to do this next right? We'll see IVE, StayC, Aespa etc doing Domes next right? Or selling 500k back sales in 5 months.

    Talking about anyone else's YT and Spotify numbers not called BTS/BP to Twice is an instant L lmao. Next.


    This conversation is over lol.

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