He serious seems like a bot to me
I don’t know what to think of him. It’s like he’s having a conversation with another dimensions AKP forum.
He serious seems like a bot to me
I don’t know what to think of him. It’s like he’s having a conversation with another dimensions AKP forum.
Yeah, tbh it's boring a bit, we need them back.
Did they boycott this thread?
You still have KP-L to entertain you.
Its not that bsh wanted 100% Ador...
100% Ador belonged to Hybe, they created the company and they put the money, Mhj was put as ceo for them, offered her 20% low prices shares and on top of that , bsh lend her the money to get them, you dont do that for someone that you dont trust.
And if were hybe, i would screw over nj too...if you are going to support the person who tried to steal a company in which she did not have to invest a single penny, claiming being mistreated for a lack of greetings after all the support that they got from hybe, you are the exact same thing than mhj and you deserve the same treatment.
“But Bang Si-hyuk said that he wouldn't let me do it unless the company held a 100 percent stake.”
-MHJ during 1st press con
100% of ADOR belonged to Hybe because BSH wanted 100% of ADOR. Then after a little while MHJ was able to negotiate shares. You don’t need to trust someone to do business with them, this is why contracts exist.
Screwing their own business over something petty is why people are calling Hybe emotional. It’s just not a good way to run a whole ass “conglomerate” or any type of professional business.
Btw, I saw TikkiTokki confirming in their YouTube comments that they will sub the 2nd press con as well. Don’t know if anyone has mentioned this yet.
Hybe can't fire her, Ador board can.
$14m penalty people talking about is for May 31st general shareholder meeting, right? I don't know if the penalty still complies with Ador board in the future.
You’re right. They mention this in the 2nd press con, they’ll have to file another injunction if the board fires her.
They will have to drown Ador in order to bring the value down. Stup*d of them to give her and co 20% with idiotic contract clause. I guess they really trusted MHJ and never expected her to backstab them in the end so soon.
Hybe lowering the value of ADOR so they don’t have to payout as much money to MHJ is what Tokkis have been speculating for a while now. The almost 2 year hiatus for NJ will certainly do that. Hybe already started with the media play against NJ. This is why we think Hybe doesn’t give a shit what happens to NJ because they just want to screw over MHJ. (Please Hybe prove us wrong!!)
No, they didn’t trust her because initially BSH wanted 100% of ADOR. This entire saga is how they never trusted her and didn’t think much of her. Hybe is just really cocky. They didn’t expect her to fight back this hard.
Hoping HYBE would reject the settlement. They need to lose more in court so ADOR could get more leverage.
Your wish became true 🫣
Edit: false alarm
Very true. I’ve always been a lurker on Reddit, but started posting on Reddit when this feud occurred and got tired of being spam filtered because of my non-existent post history. I only made an account on here because of that.
I miss OH.
In regards to the suicide thing, she’s been saying since the 1st press con that she’s not going to kill herself. She’s saying other people think she will, and that’s why they have been checking in on her.
I think that’s thoughtful of people to check especially if someone is going through something so stressful and public as what she’s going through.
I’m not saying it was right of her to bring it up at a press con. She does ramble on and overshare a lot, and she’s said it herself that she over explains and can get wordy.
I don't fully believe her but I don't understand what's wrong with what she said here? Isn't this a good outlook to have?
It is a good outlook. But some people will always twist her words no matter how benign it is.
Really agree with these comments in terms of the breach of trust issue.
Display MoreSome of what MHJ says via her press interviews def contradicts her earlier statements again - not surprised. Too many to list it now but she again admits to things she denied before and downplays it to a T. She wants to settle with HYBE now because she is def in a weaker position than before despite the injunction. She even made comments to pressure HYBE or the war will continue too.
Her latest comments re the members totally made me nauseous - she keeps saying how they worried for her because she was suicidal - how is it ok to do this?
She is also saying the members aren’t artists on their own right (w/o her LOL) and they should go after 7 years - isn’t it odd? Her mentality isn’t as progressive as some see it. She sees NJ members as her idols products for 7 years instead of artists/career musicians etc. I also question NJ parents too if they do not see any problems with MHJ but are getting upset that Bang PD ignore them lol.
But enough of that, many here have already made up their minds re MHJ and I am not here to change anyone’s mind - just find it problematic that MHJ is getting so much support despite her questionable actions to the Nj members themselves.
I already see fan wars going between fandoms again and I just hope the members are all taking care, especially Eunchae. NJ members should also take care too and while I understand their support to MHJ, they should weigh their actions too.
Re HYBE - I am surprised they stop their tit for tat rebuttals - but it’s better since they are terrible at it. HYBE is waiting for the police and regulators investigations to finish first. If the police and regulators find anything on MHJ, then HYBE can fire at her w/o giving her anything - the big payout, Ador, and NJ. This is what HYBE is hoping for.
The only way they settle is if there’s not enough evidence to get MHJ again from the police or regulators. But I find it hopeful that even the injunction court hearing judge can see and said it was clear MHJ’s intentions to harm HYBE and she got off on a technicality of the contract clause, not harming Ador as its CEO. So we will have to see.
She is definitely not in a weaker position. She actually has more leverage now because of the injunction results and Korean public opinion is still mostly on her side.
The point of her 2nd press con was to very publicly reiterate the injunction results, announce NJs album/world tour, show her calm/bright side, and call for a truce with Hybe.
The ball is in Hybe’s court now, because with that press con, she created the narrative (genuine or not) that she’s willing to compromise and her main priority is ADOR/NJ. So Hybe will look worse to the Korean public if they still try to smear or sabotage ADOR/NJ/MHJ in any way, and if they do, MHJ has ammo for lawsuits against Hybe.
She was smart to present herself in the way she did at the press con because it gives the impression (exclude Hybe stans) that she’s rational, well spoken, and being a bigger person by trying to put this behind her.
If we can believe that she does care about ADOR/NJ, then compromise is the best step right now because going through more media play and legal battles is going to negatively effect ADOR/NJ for a substantial time. She emphasizes this in the press con by talking about the album and world tour.
But of course Hybe can continue to be extremely stupid by still gunning for her. It’s their money and reputation, and they’ll survive either way.
Edit: Oh, and yes, compromise cause legal fees ARE expensive even if she wins because who knows how long Hybe will drag it on.
I was expecting the worst outcome so that news like this would pleasantly surprise the fuck out of me.
Yes, pleeeeease, let the good news continue for NJs. I want justice for them 🙏
I think as long as they don’t interfere with her work process she’ll be satisfied. She’s complained about HYBE’s micromanagement multiple times. She doesn’t like it when they try to change her vision, and when she doesn’t listen to them they do something petty.
tbh I have no idea why she signed the stock deal last year that gave her 18% but with stipulations (like the draconian non-compete). MHJ claimed that she trusted park jiwon and showed texts of their conversations where she confronted him after she signed the contract. I still don't fully understand the context but I have an extremely weird feeling about park jiwon as well - I don't trust him, and I also think he needs to step down in hybe.
She didn’t have that much time to decide and probably felt rushed. There’s always people like that who don’t fully read their contract because they’re boring as hell. But she’s stupid for not getting a lawyer to look over it for how long she’s been in the industry. Stupid for trusting PJW on his word that they wouldn’t screw her over with that contract.
Also, she seems to really suck at office politics. She doesn’t want to play along with them when these men clearly want their asses schmoozed. It doesn’t help that she’s a woman because if she were a man they’d probably be inviting her to play golf and go to room salons too.
Someone on here mentioned that PJW is a political science major, maybe that’s why you’re getting a weird feeling about him. I think it was “Oldies” (what happened to him?) that mentioned that he sees a lot of US political moves with how Hybe has been going about this.
I think do not compete clause is standard practice in the industry.
Hers was not a standard do not compete contract.