Savage was 96th on the YE chart
What's the first 24 hrs ULs?
144k uls, tbh its better than i expected, they will need promotions to rise like pop did
Scientist had 103k and POP 127k
TTT #1 on yt south korea
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really similar to pop! once again i think pop was like 62 on 24 hits but uls were a bit lower back then like around 100k
It was expected that their perfomance in the first 24 hours is not the same as IVE, BP or NJ. Every JYPE song peaks after 2 weeks, look at Sneakers, POP, AF, ICSM, When we disco...
TTT charting very similarly to POP! initially, promo could make it rise a lot like it did with NY if the song clicks
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So this is a bit better than pop! and much better than scienitst
POP! was 81st but with 13k listeners, so TTT woudlve debuted higher back then
Meanwhile scientist didnt debut until 4 hours i think
Display MorePossible, I liked the choreography in AF, but agree that it is not easy for ordinary folks, compared to their older hits which had simpler yet specfic movements for anyone to try.
Still that alone can't be the reason.
I am not sure about the decline - but for Scientist, didn't they still reach Top 10?
And whatever they were thinking about Cry For Me. A bad strategy for MAMA, indeed made the ONCEs Cry For Them.
Still I don't see why a GG which still hits Top 10 is written off so easily just by 1 aberration and 1 underperformer. Hardly enough for a pattern.
If this comeback doesn't make Top 10, and then another.. Then 3 consecutive underperforming ones can constitute a pattern of decline.
Nah scientist was their only real flop i dont even think it reached top 25 i think you're mixing up with AF which did reach top 10.
mmm choreo would be the last thing I would blame for that, they still had all point dances, they were ignored bc the group overall was ignored
Idk what point dances you're talking about cause post Fancy they havent had any famous choreography that are catchy
Only one that comes to mind is the drink part in AF but even that wasnt that catchy tbh... choreo played a huge part in their hits like whenever koreans on variety show or wtv talk about twice they're always doing the TT pose, the shy shy shy move or the likey choreo. It was something memorable and definetly brought them popualrity
Also when people discuss the decline of twice's charting, a lot of people blame it on over exposure or the concept change but a lot of people forget how popular their choreos used to be.
IMO the change from point dance to much harder dancing was a direct punch to the charting cause who the hell is dancing to M&M or ICSM for fun. Signal, TT, Cheer Up, DTNA, YOY,WIL etc. all had memorable point choreography moments and that was something people were excited for.
Twice teaser trending at #7 on sk youtube, i just checked and Nayeon's first teaser peaked at #8 so the hype is similar im guessing, but right now ive and bp are occupying the top spots so maybe it's harder to trend higher than them idk
Nayeon's second teaser was #3, lets see how the second one for twice does
Idk how scientist was trending in sk yt but i've definetly heard from a lot of onces that they were relatively no promos at all in south korea
Right now they are appearing on tons of various shows, Dahyun went to the baseball game and that cooking show, she's attending a radio broadcast tonight and Jeongyeon and Jihyo are apparently on HK coin on the 25th. All of that is before the comeback and i dont remember them doing promo before comebacks in recent years tbh.
Mina and Tzuyu are also attending a naver show on the 30th, however Jihyo has caught covid so i fear this may cut their promotions... 
Nayeon's solo was really successful everywhere... I wonder if she'll ever get a comeback or if this was a one time thing
Display MoreI wonder between YT shows and TV variety - which are more effective.
I tend to think it would be still be TV shows - though net shows will catch up.
And within YT shows, which are the most effective and popular.
I only know of Showterview, Jae Jae MMTG and of course Palette.
Depends on your demography. If your audience is older then TV
If you have a younger demographic, im thinking groups that are very high on yt korea despite not being as high on the main charts (ive, aespa etc.) then yt show is more efficient
Was that confirmed? If yes then its very good, Nayeon is probably very trendy in south korea, she's still in top 10 on the charts
Seems like Twice is aiming for korean promotions this time, Dahyun is attendiing a radio broadcast, a cooking show and baseball game by herself before the comeback, and I think there's already a show twice is confirmed to attend (forgot abt it).
Idk if that will help them chart better, but i hope so.
Still feels so weird to release friday if they're aiming for sk promotions... but its jyp
No teasers etc. But the group from MJH was very much anticipated.
In fact her joining Hybe from SM, was considered an impressive coup by Hybe.
In a way more than any group in recent history, NJ is highly associated with its producer.
It is MJH who was much heralded, even more the group members don',t have as much a distinct pull as their maker, but that will rapidly change.
TBH you guys are overestimating the average kpop fans
i had no clue who MJH was before the allegations against her and if it werent for them i wouldnt even know who she is
Jennie was literally in video clips with g dragon, the king of kpop back then, dont even try to tell me they had less anticipation than NJ lol
