Posts by call-911

    It doesn't work like that tho. BTS are the best selling artists in the world with estimated of 16M-17M units sold last year. They sell albums like it's nothing. Even without the usual album release, they still sold over 8M albums in pure sales with their Japanese release. Producers earn money through royalties plus either a flat fee or a percentage of 15%-20% in artists shares. This is how it works in the music industry.


    For example; Let's say BTS albums (pure sales) generated 140M USD last year. After taking the manufacture expenses and distribution cut, HYBE made a profit of 50% = then they made 70M USD in profits. That profit would then be divided into BTS and HYBE accordingly to their contract. Let's say it's a 50-50 cut, at the very least. BTS made 35M USD and 15%-20% of that goes to producers. But since it's an album, and Pdogg doesn't produced everything, he would have to share it with other producers. That's how it works. Not to mention, BTS also gets their own performing royalty and a cut from record royalty itself that Hybe receives from KOMCA. People don't understand that royalties and earnings from music sales are so broad and it adds up especially if an artist is selling like BTS. I'm pretty sure they have made their own agreements with HYBE/CR/UMG and the people who works in their music about the terms of their royalties shares. It was pretty known that big artists do this.


    It works differently in digitals tho, producers and writers are paid directly through KOMCA (Korea) with their contributions per song. That's what the public know, but what most people don't know is the traditional sales (the one I explained above).


    Anyways, it's not like Pdogg is Max Martin. Outside his work with BTS, all his songs flopped. And I can't with y'all people who thinks he's all that, when he only got lucky that BTS is freaking big with a huge fandom streaming all their earlier discography. BTS' biggest hits didn't even came from Pdogg except Spring Day. The money he got was from his stocks options. He even got lucky cause he was given the options in 2016, where Bang wouldn't have imagined that his company will be valued in billions of dollars today. Otherwise, he'll only get like maybe 30k to 50k shares.

    Not 75m, certainly. They didn't begin to outearn IU until 2020 and IU's net worth is estimated to be around 40m. If we don't count the shares of Hybe which had been awarded to them, I can comfortably estimate that Lee Jieun is still richer than any BTS member.

    Each members have been out earning IU since 2019. Actually, if we count their actual salary/income plus their shares now, they would be richer than IU with their estimated networth of 85M USD + 18M USD worth of shares now (with current's currency & stocks). That's $103M USD overall for aach members.

    BTS earn more than Pdogg in music tho. In royalties, yes. But overall in music, like in albums, streams and digitals...BTS earn way more than Pdogg. They have a profit sharing with HYBE/CR/UMG while Pdogg only gets the royalties plus a flat fee in producing. Besides, he's not as invloved in BTS' music these days (2019-present). Most of their stuffs are outsourced from western producers and writers. Pdogg just guides BTS in a studio as he knows the guys the best. Ofc, he still contributes to some of their songs here & there but he's not as heavily involved as before- like in their earlier days (2013-2018). So, most of the royalties that he gets came from pre 2019, for sure.

    I don't doubt they all worth at least 75m+ each (verrrry conservative estimate)

    But it's amazing how well they have hidden their wealth consider their level of fame and income. I see celebrities half or third of their popularities in the headline for much more expensive purchases or flaunting wealth, when all BTS had were a couple building purchase in cash.

    They are very smart and wise to be acting like REAL rich people. Real wealth whispers

    I estimated them to have atleast 85m USD each. Excluding their shares, ofc.

    Unlike Ed Sheeran, the Weeknd, Taylor Swift or IU, BTS is unable to exploit their earnings to the utmost.

    How sure are you? BTS generate more money than them. And despite BTS not getting the shares they deserve, none of these artists even have shares in their company. Taylor Swift also brought in the majority of revenue in her prev label (the one that Hybe bought) but she wasn't given anything at all. She couldn't even perform the songs she wrote, which forced her not to re-sign and turn to her fans for support against Scott and Scooter. We don't know what's happening behind the scenes, but I really doubt they're not getting their rightful % in revenue/profit shares.


    Even with stocks, I give them the benefit of the doubt and maybe they/their lawyers don't know how they should be rightfully compensated in shares. As it was not the norm in the entertainment business (worldwide). Even so, their shares is nothing to be scoffed of either.

    well, the Company claims a large portion of the earnings and also sets up the schedule and decides how they are run.


    How many individual activities they had been allowed ? Yet Miyawaki Sakura has an exclusive deal about her activity in Japan (Hybe only gets to claim a small % of her activities in Japan; everything else will be claimed by her Japanese agency). Apparently she learned from Lee Jieun's example.

    How do you know that Hybe keeps the large portion of BTS' earnings? Yes, when it comes to shares, the guys definitely got stiffed out, seeing how Pdogg owned 2x the amount of the guys' shares individually. But they re-signed in 2018 knowing that they bring all the profits. Didn't their negotiations took quite some time? As I remember the guys almost disbanded at that time, thus Bang PD courted them one by one. Just imagine, what % they demanded in their contract. If their contract is lame or just fine, they def won't re-sign. They're not Gfriend or Nuest lol. And I'm sure they're in constant talk with BH to ammend their contract as their value keeps on rising astronomically each year.


    Back to the shares, Pdogg was given 126k shares, and bought it for 115 USD in November 2016, as part of his stocks options in BH. Same with the other higher executives. I'd argue that he won't be able to get as much shares if he was given the option the same time as BTS. At that time, it's obvious that BangPD would have never imagined that his company will be valued in billions today, thanks to BTS. He'd probably only get 30k to 50k shares if he wasn't already in 2016. I'm still salty that the guys weren't offered that option in 2016 though, given that they were only starting with their world domination, but still...


    Anyways, we'll never know if they really want to have a hand in HYBE's operations, except their own business/activities anyway. One thing is for sure, and that is they want to focus on 'BTS' as a group and a brand. They know that time is fleeting and they want to settle down later on, so ofc they'd want to milk everything as much as possible. After their 2nd contract, each of them will walk away with around 100M USD though. That's for sure.


    I get the sentiments why some people only see BTS as somehow being 'controlled' by HYBE (financial or creative side), as they are an idol group. But BTS is not just your average idol group. Ofcourse, HYBE has to put up a strong persona as a corporate worth in billions of dollars in public, so they'd gain the shareholders trust (as what Bang implied in his Time interview). But Again, NO OTHER artists generate as much money as BTS in a single year. NO ONE. I really doubt they have no control over their career; business or money wise. Even with Ithaca Holdings, BTS still brought in 70-72% of revenue in HYBE last year without an album. This year, I even predicted them to generate 1200 Korean Trillion won (at the very least) with their hybrid concerts, full album cb, merch and fandom growth. It's possible the guys are just enjoying their financial means as much as they can while getting to do what they love. And that's okay.