They were my third K-pop group that I "discovered" when I got into K-pop, after Blackpink and Dreamcatcher
I really loved their deeper, darker stuff like uh-oh and oh my god.
But after HWAA I just started feeling diminishing returns with them. Each subsequent release strayed further from that concept and sound I like and I felt their tracks got more and more gimmicky feeling and silly
Omg, Sakura would eat up a rap verse
She would have eaten up more than 7 seconds of song time, thats for sure
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I think I might need to change my LSF answer....
And theres a scene in that MV that needs some flashing light/seizure warnings 
Flop for me...
eeeeesh...
So boring. What a weird little misfire of LSF
See I dont think its "perverted" people that over react to this type of stuff and assume relationships etc
It's naivety
I genuinely think it's people with very limited social experience in dealing with the opposite gender. Either due to cultural/religious reasons, social reasons, age or personality, they've never really been in social groups or situations where they hang out with people of the opposite gender, especially one on one.
For whatever reasons, these people cannot imagine any reasons for a girl and a boy to be hanging out together except the assumption that they are CLEARLY a romantic or sexual couple. They simply cannot perceive the idea that they are just friends, colleagues, two people in the same place at the same time...
I would deny them a seat at the table because I don't like them and the dinner party will be going after 9:30pm, which is probably bed time for half the members.
I honestly jsut can't wrap my head around the concept of ranking kpop by anything other than "Here's the Top 5 Groups I like"
Everything else is just the root cause of pretty much a lot the toxicity and stupid that fandoms war over. In a more male oriented fandom, I'd dare say it's the cause of... ahem... dick measuring contests (and some males on here definitely seem to do that over numbers)
Like seriously.
The CLEAR Top 5 Gen 4 groups are actually
3. Le Sserafim
4. weeekly (RIP so might have to change this)
5. LSF
6. IVE (to become 5 if weeekly is bumped)
That is the clearest, truest Top 5 by the only metric that actually counts or matters. What I like.
But your Top 5 will obviously be different.
OMG MY CITY!
HOLY CRAP
I AM GOING GOING GOING
I want her to step on me on stage
He isn't a horrible person, but his behaviour became really horrible.
Theres a really clear distinction between pre HYB/NJ drama and post where he really just... lost it. Let it completely consume him.
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Oh he be GOOOOOONEEEEEE!
Display Morehonestly, i don't know the situation well. im not a mod you know. im sure he would say something different from his pov. like maybe he thought his bans waren't deserved or something idk.
regardless, i just find the whole situation pretty sad because he was my friend and i thought for the most part, he had a big and fun presence on this forum
. i also wished he behaved more wisely and accepted the mods decision for a short ban even if he disagred with it. again, i think i realize it now that mods don't have an easy job at all
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also if bg likes njz, hearin and mhj, i think that's legit enough for him to be on a kpop forum idk, i don't even think one person can decide to which extent someone likes kpop or not... like that's personal. maybe her only liked njz music who knows?
for his defense, njz have been unable to make a comback for so long now
. i'm bored to, well in my case, thanks jennie for saving this year!
Tahts exactly it though, you are his friend, so you see this through rose tinted glasses.
I actually THOUGHT I was his friend as well, until he decided that the HYBE/NJ drama was more important than that and started abusing me any time I posted in the megathread, then on other threads. I asked him to stop. He went harder. I reported a post of his about it, he sent me an abusive message.
He started getting personal with insults to Daisy, constantly.
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also if bg likes njz, hearin and mhj, i think that's legit enough for him to be on a kpop forum idk, i don't even think one person can decide to which extent someone likes kpop or not... like that's personal. maybe her only liked njz music who knows?
He himself directly said, more than once, he doesn't even care about kpop anymore.
I guess mods took his word for that.
Also this... it's important.
He repeatedly said in his last few months he didn't even care about kpop anymore. He wasn't interested at all in kpop from a musical/fun point of view. Just completely brainrotted by the Hybe/NJ drama solely, with a small (and funny tbh) dash of simping on MHJ/Haerin
For me thats one the biggest "crimes" that some trolls here are guilty of. The CLEARLY no longer even like kpop anymore. The fun side of kpop doesn't interest them, they never engage in discussion of music or variety or anything. They just want to focus on the negative sides, the business sides or the numbers sides.
At least Tatty, Yama and I clearly still like the music and fun side of things and are passionate about that.
i wish there was a way to solve this issue
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The issue is solved though.
A continued troll poster who refused to take warnings and smaller bans on board and correct his behaviour was shown the door.
You and I have both had warnings and bans for our behaviour. Yama has multiple warnings, not sure if he has bans. But in all our cases, we've all stopped, or very much dialed back the things we did that led to our warnings/bans.
The badguy didn't. He instead seemed to take each WP and smaller ban as a challenge to escalate his behaviour. Each time he came back, and especially so on his 2-30 usernames, he was more abusive and nasty than before. He increasingly made it clear he didn't want to be here because it's a community for discussion, he was coming here to troll and abuse anyone that didn't explicitly agree with his rather narrow point of view on one topic. He stopped engaging in any other discussions or topics (and one big user here was trying vainly to get him engaging in other things), only and solely increasingly aggressive and abusive behaviour.
likely referencing the blurb from their review of Rosie
But.... interiority? Is that a word?
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What the Seven Burning Hells does that even mean?
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