Posts by Daileemidzy

Quote from CaraFIMIE

I mean that's kinda different.

Theator actors work on that show for months. And they usually work on just that show which is how they build their stamina to sing and dance simultaneously but idols have so many other activities they need to engage in from weekly performances to traveling to concerts to song writing to recordings and learning choreos and formations, etc not to mention shooting mvs that they sometimes have to do even more travel for.

Also, keep in mind that most theater choreographies are not very hard compared to some of the choreos idols have to learn.

Also, a theater performance can cast up to 50 people, if not more so that'll mean that the lines are divided up evenly.

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I agree more or less with all these points save for this one. Theatre actors, in order to live, are working multiple survival jobs on top of doing shows cause the economy(at least where I live) is kinda shit. So theyre incredibly busy. Also actors in contracts where they perform around the world are traveling rather frequently.

Quote from thelightoftruth

Hot take, but people need to acknowledge how much busier idols are compared to other artists.

Their choreo is usually so much more complex and active than other artists, and they do multiple performances and takes in a day, let alone a week, at stupid hours of the day, under the most intense scrutiny that any celeb around the world gets put under. Not to mention the rest of their busy schedules.

I can't imagine how it must feel to be expected to perform perfectly on every single occasion no matter your condition or health at the time.

I lose my voice singing karaoke for an hour. People expecting these idols to be absolutely perfect have unrealistic expectations in the first place.

I don't see the problem with backtracks or lipsyncing as long as they can actually sing and when it's time to deliver live then they do - like encores, static performances.

I mean most people listen to album tracks rather than lives anyway and these usually have some level of production on them

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I agree with you to an extend. Giving idols backtracks every once in a while when they're vocally exhausted is healthy for thier vocals. However I'd also like to bring up that idols are supposed to be trained to sing for long periods of time. Think about theater actors; when they have a 6 month long show contract, they are singing and dancing almost every day of those 6 months. Longer if you count rehearsals.

Modern kpop prefers visuals over talent which such a major reason why these idols aren't properly trained. Modern kpop companies are debuting literal children and ruining thier voices at a time of development where thier voices are most vulnerable. I'm so sick and tired of these young, poorly trained idols debuting without the skills they need simply because thier companies wants to advertise to specific audiences. Its disappointing as a fan because you know your gonna get lackluster performances for the first few years and it sucks for the idols because they're gonna get dragged for things that aren't thier fault. Overall I just need companies to start debuting well trained performers so kpop can bring live singing back.

Quote from Taemin-Identity

Most idols can’t be classified as Vocalists and their songs are out of their range hence most of them are lip syncing. Also in most kpop songs there are a lot of background vocals, adlibs, and harmonies which make it really difficult to sing all the lines in the song. Also kpop songs have a lot of modifications on vocals in order to fit the certain vibe or genre, which you can’t replicate in live performance.

Also, lately current 4-5th gen groups focus more on choreo, which makes singing even harder cuz they move their upper part of their body a lot.

So it is what it is. But there are SM groups who can absolutely sing but SM won’t let that happen for some reason.

All of the reasons listed here are things Phantom Siita does in every live performance and are elements of genres like musical theater. It can easily be replicated in live performance. Companies just need to properly train thier idols.

Quote from CaraFIMIE

Uhh

Backtracks aren't even a bad thing when used appropriately.

Some kpop fans have just made it seem like it is even though their own faves have used it several times in the past and probably future, too.

Backtrack is often used to support a live performance (by filling gaps where certain instruments are missing, adding effects that are tough to mimic live, etc) and in kpop where dance elements are often utilized, it is common to be out of breath so backtrack helps in these cases.

It does create an unrealistic view, sure but that depends on how you see it and how it's used by the artist.

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I agree to an extent. But I'd much rather idols have idols be properly trained to to sing and dance live then have to rely on backtrack constantly. They're are other fields where live singing is pulled off while dancing. It's just a matter of proper training and choreographers taking into consideration the limitations of live singing.

As I see it, stage presence is the ability to engage and entertain an audience.

I was watching this fully live performance by Phantom Siita and noticed how many elements of live singing are missing from modern kpop performances. The girls don't sound perfectly stable and you can hear when they switch registers. You can hear when they get out of breath cause Phantom Siita are singing LIVE while dancing.

Keep in mind these girls are trained by ADO so they aren't weak singers by any means. But by kpop standards these girls would get dragged for the very realistic elements of thier performance cause it's been so long since idols sang live that fans forgot what it actually sounds like.

Quote from Elliah

I have 0 clue lol

They could be called Stays as well for all I know actually

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Oh how I wish I was joking...

Quote from CaraFIMIE

Well it was written by American writers so...

Not saying that makes it any better but you shouldn't be surprised because it is unfortunately common (in America) for kids aged similar to ILLIT (and younger too) to make sexual references in everyday speech.

Not even an American writer but an israeli solider.....

Quote from foreveraespaaa

Maybe HYBE met their demands probably won’t take back MHJ but maybe they went half way

With MHJ currently sueing on thier behalf I doubt it.

If history's taught me anything, it's that all this IVE downplaying means they're gonna have an explosive year in 2025

Newjeans are truly the industry darlings

Did I miss something cause since when???

Call me overly optimistic but I think they do. Even if NewJeans have to leave thier name and old songs behind, thier creative team has proven they are fiercely loyal to those girls; so they'd be leaving HYBE with thier hit makers and the people behind thier MVs and concepts.

"It's a stupid move" well they have no future under HYBE and the environment there is detrimental to thier mental and possibly financial well being so who gives a shit. If NewJeans have to disband and dissappear from public eye that's FINE. The girls well being is top priority and I'm sick of dumbfucks on this site pretending it isn't.

Can anyone with a bit of actual legal knowledge tell me what will happen to NewJeans' brand deals? Will they be temporarily terminated until NewJeans find a new company or what?

If(when) NewJeans win this and redebut stronger they might just go down as one of the most historic groups in kpop.