Posts by patrik-k

Kazakstan population is 18m, Thai population 70 m. Market size and money.

Probably depends on how close the employees work with the group and the leadership. I mean, at least they should have felt that it was a risk the group would disband.

I can't say I agree, I bit odd styling of her, but it's that kind of brand so I guess that what they do. But I have seen her look much better If I say so.

I have no clue who Olivia Rodrigo is, I guess that show how much out of touch from main/radio music I'm these days.

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And also BTS aren’t the first acts to release English singles so why do they succeed when others fail??? I think BTS success is way more than them just releasing an English song

Well, I don't think we need to argue about if BTS is the most successful kpop group or not, I mean it pretty obvious they are. Also no secret the number of kpop fans and people "open to" kpop have increased in contries like US. But, very few outside of the kpop circle would listen to a song in korean. Sure, you could say we have two BTS, the previous kpop/korean BTS and with the two english singles a more mainstream BTS, even if it's still kpop they do and their root and base is the kpopfans.

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Many BTS fans are not Kpop fans, fyi

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Sorry to break your bubble but majority of armys are BTS stans not kpop stans :)

But if you are a fan of BTS you are a fan of a kpop groups so...... Okey, in Asia maybe they are a bit more "main stream" and west it depends on if the sing in English or not. If the sing in korean = mainly Kpop nerds . English = a bit more "mainstream".

I just don't understand all this obsession with streaming, charting, which group is the most successful, most popular etc.... Why is this forum like 90 % about this all the time?
Is it not more important if you like a song or not? does it matter if Song/Arist X chart high?

Well, maybe i'm bias, but I would say the 2nd gen was 10x more important than the 3rd generation, that don't mean they was better, even if I my favorite are the 2nd gen groups. But the 2nd generation was pretty much what established kpop as a thing.

In short term you could say maybe yes. But don't forget, BTS is still mostly for the kpop nerds. So without kpop fans, not BTS......

Overall the boygroups "generations" are a bit earlier that the girlgroups. If you look at 2nd gen groups you had TVXQ in 2003 and groups like BigBang and Super Junior that debuted 2005-2006. If you compare to the girlgroups it was 2007 with Girl's Generation, Kara and Wonder Girls. So it's not strange if the boygroups change "generation" a bit earlier than the girlgroups.

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their disbandment will be a mystery to me forever

Well, if you look at the Gaon Digital Chart their golden years was their early years. 2020 was not kind to them if you look at that chart with their three latest singles reaching place 32, 54 and 42. If you compare that to 2016-2017, five singles placed nr 1,1,2,2 and 11.

Feels like maybe the song have more in common with some of the boygroup stuff?

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How sad that any criticism is immediately dismissed away as ''trolling''. If you can look at ''Butter' and think that its as good as any of BTS's previous songs from before 2018 then you're lying to yourself.

It's always like that, you can't have a honest opinion that something is not so good without being jumped on. It's a kpop forum sickness.

And age group +30 have increased... so... +30 men have joined the party?

Honestly hard to remember any single song, but kind of have a memeory KARA and Pretty Girl was one thing that cought me, but it was more of a multiple songs from different groups. (T-ara, Sistar, Miss A, 2NE1)

Intresting work.

Overall I think the news daily list is much better than the previous live/hourly list, it gives you a much better feeling of how a song is doing and the popularity. The best impression of how a song is doing and charting is to wait maybe a week or two after the release and look at what place it have on the list it at that point. The chart position on the release date and the day after are not that importat I would say.

But from a "marketing" point of view I can understand it maybe was easier for a less knowed artist with the old system where a release could get a bit om 15 min of fame the hour the song was released and the position on the chart could make other listen to it because of that. But I would say that effect mainly smaller groups, some established groups from the big companies would be less effected by that.

Still, I think the 24-hours chart is better, feels a bit more fair and a correct reflexion of what songs are popular and not.

I can't see any difference between songs frome SME groups and other groups from other companies, pretty much the same. I mean a lot of them the songs are done by non-korean songwritters anyway.

I can agree it get's a bit better after some listening, but mostly it's fun to watch the girls, not so fun without the MV.

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Let me remind you that all the things they are achieving right now, is with a REMAKE SONG !!

Should you not get a bit worried SME have given them two remakes of the three singels they have had and only one original? A bit different tactic I would say.

Why are Journey to Atlantis on the charts? is that not a old song?