not only is he an amazing actor but his vocals 
I hate jpop can't you tell
ooh they will be on Studio Choom
all this stuff before Sangyeon Enlisted.
She doesn't know when to quit... 
guess i'm crazy
Display Moreagain there is a difference betwen hated and disliked. it's not the same.
haters are wrong. they should calm down and if anything direct their hate to the deserving people.
personally, even their chella performances debacle i blamed it on hybe and not on the girls. they were just not ready, but bang was too greedy so who cares? well koreans definitly did.
again i never attacked the girls or justified any hate. i'm saying there is a root to all this mess, it started with him and sadly it will also end with him.
i don't think the girls have a future in hybe. i don't even think hybe has any future past bts.
You keep saying there’s a difference between hate and dislike, but that doesn’t change the fact that you’re excusing the behavior of people who went beyond simple “dislike.” Saying, “haters are wrong, but this all started with HYBE so it’s understandable,” is still justifying their actions. It’s like saying, “I’m not condoning it, but…”—which is just a roundabout way of excusing it.
Also, saying “this all started with Bang and will end with him” is a massive oversimplification. People have free will. They’re not mindless puppets who are being forced to harass the group just because of company politics. You don’t have to like HYBE or Bang Si-hyuk, but blaming them for every single action people take is avoiding the bigger issue—that people are willingly choosing to cross the line.
As for LE SSERAFIM’s future, that’s not for you to decide. Just because you personally don’t see a future for them in HYBE doesn’t mean they won’t have one. Plenty of groups have faced massive backlash and still thrived. If they have the drive and the fanbase to support them, they’ll continue moving forward. And whether HYBE has a future past BTS isn’t relevant to this conversation—it’s just another way for you to shift blame instead of acknowledging the real problem.
If you really believe haters are wrong, then stop making excuses for them. Either hold them accountable or admit that you don’t actually have an issue with what they’re doing.
You have been told to stop by several people and a mod in this thread alone, not to mention the countless other threads and times, time to do just that STOP.
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omg how could i forget the one group who almost had it all and was done so dirty.
I wish they could re-gain that momentum as bang&Yoon&jung&moon. They really deserve the world. the talent is too good but ugh. I will never forget how dirty they were done, even their little bro's TRCNG who mostly go by BXB now but are so unknown.
Display Morebut it's hybe's decisions who lead to that. over and over again.
they could even erase all the worst articles about them like did with bang, but he probably conveniently hides behind them. or keeps them up to use it as a mean to victimise the girls, even if they're hurt in the process even more. just to benefit his agenda.
people are humans too, if they see their favorite gg being destroyed and trashed by another agency so another group can take their place, they gonna be mad.
they're gonna hate the b*astard who is behind that and will definitly not fall head over hills with the privileged group. they know how much this evil being is linked to this group, so they wanna hurt him by making them flop because specifically HE tried to sabotage and bury their beloved group just because he wasn't their producer.
honestly? all this ssera mess smells like divine justice. (im not talking about death threats or other abominations but on the public turning their back on them). just towards mhj and the girls. he probably even stole that chella invitation from njz and made the girls dance on the stage with another stolen LV deal from them. utterly EVIL.
don't do to others what you don't want to be done to you! period.
all actions have consequences.
also there is a difference between dislike/distaste and hate. i never agreed that hating anyone was ok?!!
obviously knetz got really nasty with them because they felt humiliated as koreans with their chella stage. it's like they were getting revenge on their brused ego by berating them nonstop. their reaction didn't help either. it's not ok but again, it only really happend because of bang's ego and greed. which is the ROOT of all this mess.
if anything were to happend to ANYONE, it's on him.
i'm sorry but the person who was the most attacked in all this mess was mhj. for DAYS. she didn't do anything to deserve it. she just tried to protect her ips and her company. with the way the media treated her, everybody even the girls were scared that she might k*ll herself. HYBE DID THAT.
It's honestly exhausting how you keep shifting all responsibility onto HYBE while completely ignoring personal accountability. Yes, HYBE has made decisions that affected LE SSERAFIM, but that does not excuse the people who actively chose to harass and degrade them. At the end of the day, no company is forcing anyone to send hate. Those actions belong to individuals, and they should be held responsible for them.
Your entire argument boils down to, "HYBE made people mad, so their response is justified." No, it's not. It’s one thing to dislike a company or its business decisions, but it's completely different when people direct that anger toward innocent idols who had no say in those decisions.
And let's be real—what you're saying about "divine justice" is incredibly messed up. You’re basically saying LE SSERAFIM deserved to be hated because of Bang Si-hyuk’s actions, which is just cruel. The girls are human beings, not chess pieces in some corporate revenge fantasy. They don’t deserve to be treated as collateral damage just because you don’t like their company.
At some point, you need to stop blaming everything on a single person and acknowledge that people make their own choices—including the choice to spread hate. If you claim to be against hatred, then stop justifying it when it happens to someone you don’t like.
The Last MV as a full group released on the day Sangeyon enlisted.
also WOOHOO ABS
IT'S TOO HARD OMLORD
Display MoreSame here, despite the fact that I haven't played any of those games.
And I know that Seonghwa was building Legend of Zelda LEGOs in one of his lives.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Seonghwa was thinking "I wanna be like Link and play the ocarina."
i haven't played it either but i just remember the ocarina in time i think my brother used to play it.
how funny Seonghwa is a lego/gamer nerd lol
I 100% agree and I'm not suggesting any criticism of this form is meant as shade, as there are plenty of legitimate reasons to put blame on the company as you've shown, I just feel sometimes it's just a form of shade in disguise and felt like sharing this thought. And of course I don't want people to actually start attacking groups lol.
I get what you mean! There’s definitely a fine line between constructive criticism and just using it as a way to shade a group. But at the same time, blaming the idols for things that are ultimately the company’s fault isn’t fair either. As long as the discussion stays balanced and acknowledges both sides, it’s all good. And yeah, attacking groups is never the way to go!
