Posts by wendii

BigHit

By definition they are “artist” but they’re not respected or taking seriously (with the exception of a obvious few) because typically most don’t have control over what they do in the grand scheme of things. Also because a lot of them (idols) are quite mediocre.

I’m sorry I feel like they’re trying to downplay it

Kpop idols can BARLEY even publicly speak to one another.. let alone have public beef

Quote from Icaro_Ribeiro

well, I'm dropping my support to Kakao M artists

I'm not a fan of any, just casual listener

Right, i just like a few songs here and there so I’m not too pressed.

Tbh I never have to listen to these songs again in my life and I’m good.

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They’re sabotaging international fame for these groups. Most people internationally listen to music through Spotify. No one will be able to discover your artists if they can’t listen to them.

Why do you think Jpop isn’t popular in the west? It’s because their music is not easily accessible.

And the gag is Japan is trying to be more open.. and they successfully intergrated Spotify into Japanese culture and it’s one of the most popular streaming apps WITHOUT sidelining the succesful home grown apps.

Japan continues to show why THEY have the 2nd biggest music market and how Korea attempts (and fails) to immigrate them with their childish “banning” behaviors.

The way Koreans do in entertainment industry do business just doesn’t come off well in the international sector of business. Kakao removing all their artist globally, MBC banning all BH artist. Pathetic and childis. All these companies ran by thieves

Lol Spotify won’t be affected... but those artist and fans will be. Kpop or korean music don’t bring in that much streams or revenue to make a significant difference, however kakaoM and MELON literally pays pennies for streaming and even STEAL royalty credits.

What do you mean to fans

PERIOD

Ps BE Hidden vocals

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Sounds like mixing problem?

Plenty of songs have hidden vocal, harmonies stack vocals etc. not everything is MEANT to be heard or prominent.. but to just add a layer to the song.

If BTS wanted those vocals to be prominent they would be especially because some members often co-produce and engineer the songs/aswell.

I’m just saying this is normal. Although I would say I would love for BTS to do more runs riffs and belts in their songs.

Quote from doesitneedsaying

they will, they re looking for a new one

There is no indication that that new stylist is for BTS, I very much doubt they fired their current stylist over a few looks.

Pretty sure they’re performing songs from BE.. and spring day

BTS

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Pop music is pretty cyclical in the US. If you’re talking about groups, every 5-10 years there a a big burst of pop boy and girl groups, then it’s quiet, then it happens again (New Edition - New Kids on the Block - Backstreet/N Sync - One Direction - BTS).

Pop music is by its nature often highly disposable and bg/gg even more so. Once the hype has died down or the audience grows up, it is very rare to have longevity in your career. So I get why American record companies aren’t investing a lot of time until the next wave hits, and I suspect they’re working in the background on some.

If you’re talking about the actual music, pop music reflects whatever is the dominant musical trend. It’s been everything from doo wop to Motown to hippie/dreamy to rock band to synth to glossy Swedish-infused pop to its current r&b/hip hop incarnation.

So I don’t see anything other than another evolution in the sound. What I think is different is that the internet and the rise of streaming + easier global access + social media provides more ease to really focus on a niche that suits your tastes, which is having a larger impact on what the music industry creates. Additionally, this global mix is adding seasoning to the mix of every country’s music.

I also think that we have a tendency to idolize what came before, as noted upthread that people have always complained about the music. There was a lot of crap in the 80s and 90s too. No one’s asking Otown or LFO or Limp Bizkit or Stacey Q to come back. When we look back on this era, we’ll apply the same filter we do to that era and cherry pick what we like.

And the filters that everyone applies to music criticism currently would slam some of the all time greats. For example, I see all the time on this forum people slamming artists for not writing their own music. You know who didn’t write her own music? Whitney Houston. Is Taylor Swift’s “we are never ever getting back together,” a song that she co-wrote, a better song than Michael Jackson’s “Thriller,” which he did not? (Hell no.)

Tl, dr: We look at the past with a rosy filter. I’m interested to see what’s next in pop music in all countries, as bits and pieces of one culture are filtered through the lens of another.

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The difference is that both Whitney Houston and Michael Jackson (who he wrote 3 of the biggest hits on that album by himself) are both heavily involved at least in the creative process of their work.. something that a lot of kpop groups don’t get the choice in.

Michael was so heavily involved with Thriller and it’s well documented.. he couldn’t play instruments but he would sing melodies into tape recorders for Quincy to produce.

Plus songwriters were more known and respected by the GP back then compared to now so it was a big deal if A artist had a song written by this singer.. songwriters would be given whole TV specials.

Whitney is a supreme vocalist and typically most people don’t really care if vocalist don’t write as long as they are amazing singers and release hits. It’s different if let’s say Madonna wasn’t writing and involved in her creativity.. she probably still would of been successful but not had the longevity, authenticity, credibility that she has today as an artist, same with Janet Jackson!

No

The creativity in the west (America) exceeds that of kpop.

Kpop is VERY formulaic, all the videos follow the same trend, and production style. However there a few groups that switch it up!