Posts by window2002

Quote from YamaChwan

Prove I spend all day and night doing so.

Also, I feel like only people who don't have lives think that posting on a forum is some huge time commitment that prohibits you from doing anything else.

Is the concept of multitasking foreign to you? I can work my full time job, go to the gym, walk 40,000 steps, get dinner with friends, watch some K-Dramas, play some FFXIV, do some chores around my house that I own (intentional flex), and STILL post just as much as I do here without issue.

Posting on a forum has zero correlation with whether someone has a life or not, fam.

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Lmao. Hope you feel happy spending time here then

Quote from YamaChwan

Where's your proof that I don't have one?

Hey, is this the part where I flaunt my wealth or assets? Is that okay with everyone, when someone accuses me of not having a life?

Its just an opinion. I dont think anyone with a with a life would spend days and nights fighting like a warrior on allkpop to defend a CEO they dont know about. Thats pathetic, dont you think?

Edit: I dont think having money equals to having life. Lol

Quote from YamaChwan

We've covered this. The behavior of MOST AKP Army here been overwhelmingly hostile and toxic towards all things NewJeans, for literal months now. When I asked for them to stop attacking NewJeans and stop attacking Bunnies, and I even stopped posting to see if I was the common denominator, the hate comments continued unabated.

There are a few users who are exceptions, and I don't aggro on them usually, but the typical rhetoric is always "those ingrates would be nothing without HYBE" or "I hope they leave and we can see them fail without using our boys' money" or "look how they flopped without the support of ARMY", and it goes on and on and on and on.

Conversely, I've rarely seen Tokki bringing that same vitriol towards ARMY. Of the ones here, I am the most hostile, and even then, I have never attacked BTS the group, only the aforementioned toxic ARMY.

Both sides are bad is a cop out to me, because one side has been exponentially more vocally toxic towards the group, while my issue is with the company and the people defending their clear sabotage of NewJeans.

I don't even think I'm generalizing, because literally most of the ARMY I've engaged with here have only done so in the context of demonizing NewJeans and disparaging them for aligning with MHJ.

And that's just on AKP. Don't even get me started on how it goes outside of AKP.

And to be honest, I do go at individuals. And they cry about it. So I keep it broad so users don't report me for "calling them out", which is the only reason I was temp banned once.

I wouldn't vote for this current iteration of me either. I've mentioned it before. I had a very long and well-documented "Good Yama" era in K-Pop. Now the glow and luster has faded, and I'm in my villain era after a decade of turning the other cheek.

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I think you need to get a life

Quote from Chaittra

With HYBE being all over media for all wrong reasons, it must have taught the other companies its better to act soon and not get the company or other artists dragged with it...

The evidence they found would have been too much to take such an immediate action... anyway good to know they acted soon

Nah. It must have taught other companies to do bribe job better. This Teil's case must have been going for a while, but no police whispered anything to reporters? No media has any idea about it? Nope, they were paid to keep it shut. Now SM knows he cant be saved so they revealed it

Quote from Karl-III

This means that his streaming was inflated, just like the rest of the BTS artists. Almost all solo artists show unrealistic streaming figures on Spotify and only on this platform. All that's left is to add 2+2 to understand a simple fact about the music of one group and why it is so popular.

Lol.

Jungkook reached no.1 on K charts, no.1 on youtube, no.2 on Apple music and no.1 on Spotify.

BTS got PAK on K charts, peakes 2 on Apple Music, got most viewed on youtube and no.1 on spotify.

How is that "only good at one platform"?

The only unrealistic numbers from Kpop soloist is spotify streams for Money from Lisa and Who and LC from Jimin. And if you want to talk about unrealistic numbers from Kpop groups, there are indeed Newjeans, 50/50 and Illit spotify numbers with their autoplay.

If you really care about the matter, please argue rationally. Your arguments hold no credibility when you start using lies to fit your narrarive.

I wont waste time for trolls and plain haters

Quote from Karl-III

If an artist is popular, he is popular on all platforms, Jimin only has Spotify, he is not popular on YouTube, he is not popular on Melon, he is not popular on Apple Music. How can an artist who has huge streaming on Spotify be so unpopular on other platforms? Stop covering up obvious streaming fraud.

Do you have a problem in understanding? We are talking about the current situation of JM's title song Who. You used it to accuse BTS while BTS numbers always match everywhere.

And although this JM new song has some unusual number on one platform, it doesnt mean he is not popular. It just mean his spotify number is inflated by some method although i think even without the inflate number, his numbers would still be big for a Kpop soloist anyway

Quote from RealGoodLove

Just a thought for y'all. I wont say were in the US i live but its a big city of nearly 1 million people and we are not listed on the spotify city chart. Does the chart only list the cities where people use spotify the most?

I still remember the pandora debacle. I'm salty about that because I lost the account I had for over a decade. All I did was stream a night PL during LC release week. 😭 according to them, my night streams were too irregular. I fucked around and found out. But even now US fan bases still encourage using Pandora. We can pull 70-100k streams a day during release week. Yeah it's more modest numbers but we still get in the top spins chart and the thumbs up chart and that's enough of a reward lol.

I'm gonna be honest I don't understand Korean charts. BTS does not fare all that well on those charts (I think) besides with Dynamite, Spring Day, and now, Seven. The move to spotfiy is more logical imo because it contributes to world charts and is just one platform to focus on instead of three or four.

Youtube is our enemy. That's a BIG problem for us. Army fan bases are open about how much we struggle on YT. That's just a sad fact. Our numbers for member releases are slow, even now JK's songs get the most daily gains but we still don't have the dynamite era power we used to have. Views get deleted, frozen, we don't have ads, it's frustrating.

I don't know much about the deezer situation tbh, all I know is that Who entered the US chart and that not many people use deezer in the US.

This has been an interesting thread. I really don't think that there is an underground operation of streaming farms across the world run by fans lol, this seems like typical mass streaming behavior were you fuck around and find out. I'm not gonna take one look at a screenshot from one account on X and take it as gospel that they single-handedly set up a streaming farm in the US. What I am goin to do is encourage everyone on my gc to use premium accounts cause apparently that's the only legitimate way to consume music. 😅

Have a pleasant day/night y'all

Stream WHO & MUSE

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LC streams on pandora suddently increased from below 50k daily to more than 500k daily MONTHS after its release and after that Pandora susspended pandora accs from JM solos and some army.

Jimin songs suddently increased on Deezer worldwide and he was top 1 for a while but then dramatically fell out top 100 after Deezer.

Lippredict talked about a song which had more than 50% of its streams were free which was unusual and based on TOTC predicted points, the song he reffered to was Smeraldo GMB.

You guys always play the victim and act like every platform in the world is against him. But maybe the problem is not the platform, the problem is what his fans are doing on those platforms? I remember armys used to drag anyone who used suspicious methods for BTS (like looping) but now its fucked up that they coddle JM solos too much and let them do anything they want.

And the Jiminfunds post is real. She deleted it after realized she set JM up. Even JM solos dragged her for it.

Saying anyone who wants to address this problem is an anti is absurd. Lol

Quote from Karl-III

I looked at the South Korean charts, the numbers are simply unreal for the platform as a whole. It seems to me that it is already obvious about the digital boosting of streams. More proof that BTS's popularity directly depends on bots, playlists, etc., which does not make them popular in the world.

Not you using this as a opportunity to accuse BTS numbers. Lol. That makes you sound like a clown.

BTS numbers always match in Every platform, from youtube to spotify to AM and Kcharts. Just because solos doing something for one member doesnt mean it applies to the group.

For example, Lisa solos bot her Money to the point it had 3M streams daily but couldnt enter global chart (which means 70% streans were filtered). But does it also apply to the group? No. I havent seen any song from BP which has 70% filter rate like Money.

Yall have too much hatred for a group so its hard to have a civil and rational discussion with people like you.

Quote from ForgottenSoul

They didnt.

they did.

Quote from Taemin-Identity

Oh okay

For armies who read this reply could you tell that they combined 4 versions of muse so it could get 4m+ streams in a single day?

Yeah. Jimin released 1 remix ep and 2 alternate album covers of his album on spotify, each one has one Who version which gives Who 4 versions to stream and all streams are combined. (Thats the purpose of releasing more album covers on spotify).

Its been known that Kpop fans all do mass streaming but to different extents. Armys are good at it but army usually avoid extreme methods which could hurt BTS image.

Unfortunately, JM solos and some diet armys dont stick with that. They would do anything for some bragging rights.

Jimin spotify numbers have been weirdly fluctuated. And based on prediction accounts, almost 50% of his streams in the US are free streams, which is not usual at all.

Thats why his prerelease song charted lower on Hot 100 than Lisa althought it had almost the same streams with Rockstar and much more sales.

Free streams often come from either youtube or free spotify. For JM, since his youtube streams are low, those free streams come from spotify with mass streaming "method" done by his solos. They admited spending a year to set up a streaming farm there.

I dont understand why armys refuse to address the elephant in the room. Sooner or later, this tactic will harm JM really bad. Just like what happened with his pandora and Deezer numbers

Quote from Karl-III

Is Twitter such an objective indicator of popularity? The very fact that they are only good on Spotify already says a lot, it certainly doesn’t mean their organic popularity. Their popularity is simply inflated by Spotify, just like other Hybe bands.

Their Spotify streams match their youtube views. You are trying too hard.

Its quite easy to recognize autoplay cuz every autoplay song has the same pattern. Autoplayed songs will keep increasing in streams after their debut (when sutoplay starts working), then it remains quite stable until the autoplay stops.

NONE of BTS songs follow this pattern so you can stop projecting

Isnt this collection accused of copying a Hongkong brand? I saw post and the 2 collectionw look very similar

Quote from oldies

Well this is all interesting and all but things move too slowly here in AKP forum. Now there are some netz who claim that Illit's hand gestures and certain moves are very similiar/almost identical to Dahn World cult's. Even if Hybe sues, I don't think it's going to go away.

Plus from what I'm noticing on twits and on forums, they are not going after BTS but BSH/Hybe. They are bashing BSH for wasting the the blood and sweat of BTS that built up the reputation of the company as well as fund it.

So relax Army folks. Unless you are out to protect Hybe the company, you can set your mind to rest. Also, basically all the idols being used for what people perceive as cult messages, for now, seem to be seen as victims.

Also, it looks like the hate for LSM is not new from what I'm reading. It was always there and they had their antis and this I guess opened the door for them.

edit: If Hybe sues anyone, they should sue those cult people, especially that online uni. They are using BTS's name to advertise themselves. I need to go back and look at it again but there is even course advertisement that directly uses BTS name in it. (addition: This one I think was from twitter)

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Lol. They are bashing and accusing BTS left and right and you are telling me they are not after BTS? Both MHJ and Bang PD are greedy evils and you cant tell me otherwise

Quote from stxr

im talk abt double standards bc for example whenever a male idol is shirtless preforming, he is praised, and when a female idol is showing a bit, she is heavily criticized

There is always a line between being sexy and being provoked. Both male and female idols get criticized if they over expose too much or perform too provocative. Jackson Wang got hated for his stages. While many female idols are wearing sexy clothes and get praised.

Imagine if any male idol goes to club and sits on a girl's lap like Jennie did? All hell breaks loose. There are always different standards for different idols so stop acting like male idols get less critizied than females

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Also this could be a double standard bc I think when Jungkook did something like this, no one was saying mean things.

"If Jungkook did"

"If it was Jungkook"

JK be like I didnt do shit and still being brought up in everyones business.

Yall know what? If JK acted in a 18+ series or wore undies twerking on stages, he would have been hated ten fold more than what Jennie or Lisa have been through

Quote from Afriyieau1

Yes

But Ella Baila Sola was much more popular than La bebe in the US. Ella Baila sola charted at around 20 on BB year end Hot 100, while La bebe charted at 30s.

See? Still doesnt make sense

Quote from Afriyieau1

Youtube pays views depending on the market. A billion streams from the US or Japan will be weighed higher than a billion streams from Asia, Africa, Latam etc.

IFPI is also a revenue chart so it makes sense they will take this into consideration

Was Labebe popular in the Us though?

Lippredict also said they did Seven dirty

Quote from hieuken

it depends on the country.

how popular is La Be Be in the US ?

Im not sure but I guess its more popular in Latin countries. It debuted at 77 on US hot 100

Quote from Kitty_Saurus

Its bigger in terms of streams on Youtube...

But they said youtube views are worth penny.

I still think something doesnt sound right with the lists.

Quote from Afriyieau1

It’s not just “album sales”. IFPI also ranks Japanese sales higher. Txt had a Japanese release so all that helps.

Okay. But NJs have no Japanese release, their total album sales are 4.3M and I believe rhey have less streams on youtube and Spotify than JK, less digital sales and CD sales than JK. How come they could make top 10 and JK not even top20? (Sorry for bringing other groups here. I dont have any problems with their rankings, I just dont get how JK is not in top 20. Lol). That doesnt make sense to me

Quote from Jasmine_Waters

Pure album sales are weighted more. If streams weighted more Svt would not be #2 and SZA would have been 2

But if so, I believe JK's 2.7M album sales and such good streams would help him beat some artists in the top 20, like Post Malone for ex