Posts by Neurotic02

Quote from Minazuki

It gives me early Seventeen vibes

I think Pledis' main concept is "growth" so that the fans will grow up tgt with them and maybe that works. Because Carat is kinda overly protective to Seventeen

A BOPPPPPPP!!!! THE WEATHERING WITH YOU AT THE END?? CHEF KISSSS. I hope Pledis will be consistent with this concept

Quote from Semirhage

I’m going by the official Circle chart, here is a link to the most recent week.

https://circlechart.kr/page_ch…iceGbn=S3010&termGbn=week

You can change it to monthly and view the rankings for different months as well as weeks. I don’t know what that chart you’re showing is, it may just be for a single karaoke provider? The Circle singing room chart has Plot Twist at 81st in the most recent week.

Ohh I see, thanks! Just saw the chart and, again, doesn't prove your point because I didn't see Heya and Spot at top 10. From my casual search both even did worse than Plot Twist. So karaoke chart does not play a key part in proving smtg

It's good to know tho cuz I didn't know Circle even make that kind of chart geezzz

Quote from draggehz

im not a 100% sure but that might be because they filtered to dance category as you can "댄스" on top

here you can see the main chart with 40000 plays filtered under "가요"

Thank you!

Quote from Semirhage

To further defend QWER from the suggestion of sajaegi from that TWS fan, the Circle singing room chart is a great way of knowing which songs are actually popular in Korea. On the monthly chart:

QWER - Discord

Dec 2023: 17th

Jan 2024: 10th

Feb 2024: 15th

QWER - Addiction to worry

Apr 2024 - 62nd

May 2024 - 3rd

As you can see, Discord (a minor hit), peaked in the top 20 and their latest song, Addiction to worry (a top 5 hit), has surged to third on the monthly chart. So I think QWER’s success is because their songs are popular with the GP - they wouldn’t be choosing to sing the songs at the karaoke/noraebang if they weren’t.

It’s funny to compare to the alleged biggest song of the year though, it never even got into the top 20. All the other songs in the top 10 of the yearly Circle chart so far at least got into the top 10 of the monthly Singing room chart (except for Perfect Night, which is in English).

TWS - Plot Twist

Mar 2024 - 34th

Apr 2024 - 27th

May 2024 - 43rd

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genuine question, what is this karaoke chart and your karaoke chart?

The amount is doubling their debut album. Although po numbers arent the actual sales but since they did a LOT of Japanese schedules and plot twist gathered some fans. It's not that surprising tbh. Especially knowing their 500k circle physical copy for debut album is supported by Carat

Quote from Wateris

Pledis is kind of genius because TWS 2nd single is just perfect for student graduation time.

Interesting, they went this route.

Which month does Korean student graduate? I was in assumption on April like Japan. And yes kinda agree, Pledis taking a good route for TWS, their biggest failure is not capitalizing plot twist popularity during its peak. But still not too late I guess

Anyways they have uploaded an early challenge video on tiktok. Definitely plot twist 2.0

It sounds banger already. I get why Hey Hey is a pre-release and this-whatever-long-ass-name gonna be the title song

MV Teaser 1

MV Teaser 2

MV Prologue

Like the amount of ppl qrt and throwing hate towards TWS youthful concept needs to be studied

"When will they leave high school"

"Do they not have other clothes aside from uniform"

"Boring ass concept"

But anyways, TWS is really good at reviving old 2nd gen kpop sound. In the midst of Westernized title track, they sound very "KPOP"

Ngl 2023 kinda insane for Seventeen

Also seems like Plot Twist will take June as well

Definitely not Pledis groups

Quote from Wateris

Last song giving that Plot Twist 2.0

Definitely plot twist 2.0

The chorus is full in korean. They surely use little english

Which is good. It’s important for a rookie to be consistent with their sound. They can do experimentations with bside

Quote from doketwaj

i agree w art direction sm. imo pledis really needs to take notes from a company like SM ent whose art direction even got me considering on buying some of red velvet and aespa’s albums despite me not being a part of their fandom nor into the members of those two.

I think Pledis did great with TWS, objectively. Seventeen is already so big that even if they throw some random design like what every this blasphemy is the fans would still buy it (yes I'm still petty about Seventeen's album design)

But I think they try harder for TWS since they're aware this group still in the phase to gather fans. Cuz the design of TWS' debut album "Sparkling Blue" looks cute and interesting, basically a notebook that you can actually use daily with a zipper lock pouch to keep photocards and inclusions. I saw some ppl said they bought it just because of the design

But yeah, Pledis needs to be more ambitious cuz they've been wasting so many opportunities given by Plot Twist

Quote from kazuyakamenashi

Right like I said 9 serving. You forgot scoups he's medically exempt grade 5 means he can NEVER serve under any capacity not even basic training, reserve, or public service.

Oh, I was INDEED forgot bout that lol

Production wise I still prefer Sparkling Blue's highlight medley. The quality is just superb

The title track at the very end sounds like banger already

Quote from SooYoung

Well i would love to call out QWER for sajaegi

But their song went viral last year

And this year they made a comeback with pretty much no promo building up to this, and their song did well too

TWS did well with their songs

Released a pre-release with more promo building the pre-release hype and to get attention on it

And they couldn't enter melon top 100

So now you understand why i find one group smells more fishy than the other one

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It's nothing weird at all lmfao. Their fandom is literally just a baby with little to nothing promo. They already did better than wayv and kepler. If what you meant by doing music show promo should guarantee melon top 100 then look at Babymonster Like That, still at 359 on Melon daily (despite Sheesh enter Melon top 10) compared to TWS' Hey Hey 188 atm. Both arent title track. You act like you do not know songs can perform differently on chart. But since TWS is from Pledis you will still bark anyways. I hate Hybe with all my might, but you seem to be so obsessed with it. Okay, I cant win if you have this much obsession

Quote from DMV2DMZ

Whatever the reason(s) behind it, I like this kind of quality for them! Def. one of the most slept on HYBEsha affl'ed. groups but one with the right ingredients for mass appeal.

If the group is consistently profitable, isn't this a form of reinvestment ("spending money to make more money")?

That's in theory, but if you look at seventeen's album "Your Choice" cover it's kinda questionable

Quote from Neko-Sakura-Chi

its just bcs company became rich richer in 4th gen kpop groups

Well thats true. But at the same time if they ain’t willing to spend it then there’s nothing different

Quote from kazuyakamenashi

That plus upcoming military service will wreck any plans for a CB and any opportunities for the agency to make money. So they heavily invest in tws while slowing sunsetting svt. 13 members of which 9 have military duty coming up? Only way this group sees a cb within a year is if they all enlist at once. If not it will be well over a decade before you see a full group CB

So far who wont be serving in military are

- jun

- hao

- joshua

Vernon has Korean passport

And Pledis still yet to announce the military line up mechanism. But they do said enlistment wont affect the group’s schedule. So it’s still kinda open to interpretation