Posts by Neurotic02

Quote from draggehz

you think sajaegi is done by the producer company instead of the group's company?

I dont know. You seem to have lots of knowledge

Quote from Dreamy-parfait

All this yap when three current song isn’t doing numbers at all, hybe did sajaegi for them and people still don’t tune in LOL

I admire your consistency to be at TWS’ ass. Might as well stan atp

For a subunit it’s kinda surprising tbh. And it’s still ongoing

Quote from LCJK

Yes and it’s the same for every group but they just signed again so there’s no urgency.

Investing in a new group is the normal thing to do. What is refreshing is them deciding to put money on creativity and just not doing the bare minimum because they know fans will buy anything anyway.

IKR!! It’s just gotten so boring when agencies already feeling “secure” that they can just put some half assed work cuz they know the fans will buy it anyways. This is indeed refreshing to see

Quote from draggehz

yea fuck you i understand defending your group but don't randomly name drop qwer just because they have no one to defend them overseas lmao

As if TWS has any

Anyways, QWER’s songs are made by Prismfilter, and Prismfilter is a prod house made by Bumzu/Wasurenai the main producer of Seventeen TWS and Pledis groups. Personally I see them as a distance cousin

And I’m not interested in fucking you. Yucks

Quote from LCJK

this time, physicals will be released on the same day for everyone

Wait. What does it mean? The physical used to not be released at the same date?

Quote from tetetete

Didn't seventeen re-sign just a year ago

Yupp but I’m not sure for how long. And having only 1 big act is not a good sign for an agency

Quote from LCJK

They did. I don’t think OP truly believe Pledis will lose SVT.

Seventeen as a group has very little chance to break apart. But them staying in Pledis forever isn’t a guarantee and I said this as a carat. Esp knowing Hybe basically change all Pledis managerial positions and a lot of things has changed. Pledis definitely not “Pledis” anymore. Plus them staying this long is already a world record for big numbered group who broke 7 years curse, but I cant see them stay becoming idols in 40s

Han Sungsoo's creativity is indeed good. SParkling Blue was a very well made debut album. Seventeen early days album were also great. He can continue working as producer and should never touch management

Cuz the heck with TWS' budget just for an album trailer?? it's not even MV trailer. This might be the most refreshing trailer and the best trailer I've ever seen ( I am subjective)

Pledis really has a type

Quote from misraa

JYPE is probably as good as a big idol company is ever going to be, from raising employee wages to at least paying lip service to caring about their idols' mental health. Is it a "good" company? No, none of them are good. When you value someone's earning potential more than their well-being, you're never going to be "good". But compared to some of the other agencies around? I wouldn't say they're garbage tbh. Not good, not horrendous.

Same with JYP as a person. I honestly think the thing that draws so many people in is that he's super relatable and likable. He comes off as being more socially-conscious and progressive than I think he actually is and that serves him really well, especially with international fans. It's easier to gloss over someone's questionable behavior when everything else about them is likable.

I still can't believe JYP really got out of the whole "wait, he's in a cult and has access to trainees/idols at impressionable ages?" thing with nary a scratch despite just... not addressing it as he said he would. IDK if he was part of the cult or not, but when your wife is pretty deep into it...

What did he do really? I never bother to care anyone other than my ults (gen ask)

Quote from SooYoung

Would i want to go see his solo concert? No

So to me he's not

true enough. But his songs kinda slaps. I like the last one

I mean well, idk why kpop stans hate him so much and keep calling him names. And I don't know whether ppl being serious or joking (feel free to tell me why). But when watching Honey and Dont Leave Me stage on Weverse Con I can say that man surely is a performer. In his 50s but still doing multiple songs and do the dance too. My 20s back could never

Quote from SooYoung

But is it ????

I don't want to accuse them of anything without a proof

But i've never heard of a song being bigger than a BIG 4 GROUPS

Even if the group isn't like super popular when they have a hit like their debut was supposed to be

One way or another it have an impact on their next comeback

I'm just going to take riize as an example because they target the same public and they debuted close to each other

"get a guitar" wasn't as successfull than plot twist

But still you can see that the success of Get a guitar really helped them for Talk saxy and Love 119

Even when ikon released Love scenario their next cb had a bigger debut in chart than their previous song

It actually happen a lot that a song is bigger than the group itself for nugu groups

But it never happen for a big 4 group

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Quote from Dreamy-parfait

Their debut was so obviously sagaeji it’s insane

Thee flop numbers after supposedly getting the most listened to song in sk is… hybe is t even trying to hide the sagaeji

I know this is late. But gurlll. How come when TWS doing good on charts they're sajaegi and if doing bad it's still sajaegi and flop? Make up your mind. I have repeatedly told you two about the reason why Plot Twist did great on chart and Pledis' lack of promotion but you again and again refuse to listen

To make it into baby language:

1. Plot Twist was released at the time of the school's new term. The song is all about handsome boys with cute and awkward lyrics first meeting at school. The Korean title literally "첫 만남은 계획대로 되지 않아 (The First Meeting Doesn't Go As Planned)". If you make a tiny effort to go to the MV's comment section you'll see KOREANS still leaving comments here and there saying how they miss the old kpop days as a former HOT fan or how their toddlers and babies like listening to the song or how they never been a fan of kpop groups but enjoy listening to Plot Twist. Just because your algorithm does not include Plot Twist does not mean the world revolves around you. Also this is SK we are talking about, not wherever you may come from
2. Plot Twist was everywhere in SK. THE Park Myungsoo even requested them to come to his show. Running Man repeatedly plays it as bgm. Pongja in Omniscient Interfering View said she likes Shinyu and mentions TWS multiple times. Basically korean shows keep playing Plot Twist here and there for weeks. Dont get me started how PT was played as ELECTION LIVE VOTING BGM
3. PLOT TWIST IS BIGGER THAN TWS. This, is the truth. I bet Pledis did not expect it to blow up. Sure, Pledis groups debut song have always garnered positive reviews from gp/knetz (e.g Nuest Face, SVT Adore U) but they DID NOT expect it to be this huge and PLEDIS DID NOTHING TO CAPITALIZE THAT. No korean shows, no radio shows, they only did 3 shows (MMTG, Spotify Youtube, ODG) and that's IT. A much more pitiful promotion compared to ILLIT which debuted months later. Even GIDLE did it better when they saw Fate was climbing the chart and decided to do music show promotion once again. So you cant really compare them to RIIZE and BM since SM and YGE basically shove those groups to everyone's throat. Pledis is Pledis, stupid as usual
4. Lastly, if you wanna scream for sajaegi accusation then do it to QWER too or maybe some other soloists and groups that after having a hit the new song debuted lower. This is kinda tiring how TWS fans keep smashing their heads and giving middle fingers to Pledis because TWS lacks of promotion as a rookie and we also must face SM stans who have beef with Hybe + BSH and looking for some punching bag

Anyways, TWS actual comeback is on June 24. Lets just hope Pledis wont fuck up this time and actually give them a rookie promotion

Quote from WhyKnock

4. TWS - Plot Twist (no Japanese members)

Seventeen has a HUGE fanbase and popularity in Japan. I hope TWS will reach the same height as them

ANIME BOYS IS BACK

Wait what? I didn’t know what happened

Quote from WhyKnock

The problem is people do not buy albums to listen to it. IT is like a fandom goods, so those who are going to buy SVT albums will buy it whether it is $20 or $200.

So I don't think a regular release will improve the numbers significantly.

Price does matter. It’s freaking expensive not to mention the shipping fee

Quote from Rarami

is the lottery thing a japan thing?

Not sure if it’s a japan only thing but for sure in Japan you cannot just go to a ticket booth or online queue to buy concert tickets. You should enter a raffle and if you win you’ll get a CHANCE to buy it (not guaranteed)