Omg I'm so happy Lia's included in this. Gives me more hope of her return
Posts by buffyfan
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You started this thread with the RIGHT pic
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Her ad-libs in Love me like This were my absolute favorite and made me realize I like her vocal tone the best.
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Honestly. I can't argue. Only You era was legendary
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As a wonderful, I couldn't have been prouder of them. Especially during the time when they really had to take control and do things themselves because JYP wasn't investing a lot in them. They really took control and proved all that they learned and that they knew how to create good music.
The flow of the album was like butter. So good.
Tbf tho, Wonder World deserves a LOT more credit too. It's up there.
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Oh I like the garage version a lot actually. And the lo-fi version was cool to listen to at this time of night
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You lack the credentials and clout to hand out any kind of certification. Don't kid yourself.
I'm also not attacking everyone for anything; I'm attacking stupid people for smooth brain takes and statements, and I'm pretty sure I gave advance notice that I wouldn't be nice in 2024. I meant what I said.
Come correct or you'll get no respect. Those are the rules of engagement if you decide to enter the arena with me. And let me be clear, people are choosing violence with me and crying when they get hurt.
Not my problem.
I feel like ive seen comments from you asking for ppl to quote you and you're always ready for some discussion and to talk about stats.
But why when this user quotes and brings up stats and seems to want to have a discussion with you, it seems that youre response now is to suddently try and silence someone by saying they can't have an opinion if they weren't there?
Its a little hypocritical honestly.
Sorry to be off topic OP, just saying I'm seeing here.
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Gott admit, that was pretty funny.
That's all the useless chud does.
Lmao this wasnt remotely funny.
Whats funny is how obvious face palm reactions hurt you guys. And i hope Barnaby continues to do it so I could see some more reactions like this lol
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that first tweet is honestly hypnotizing
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wow I didn't know this Mexico concert was going to be so big
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Tzuyu looks so pretty here. I won't what the surprise is the for the Mexico concert. Maybe another sneak peak for I Got you
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Omg I hate myself for how fast I clicked on this thread once I saw the title. But at the same time, I feel a little awarded for it also with these pics.
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It's very likely that the Onces I cross paths with are not the Onces you spend the most time around.
But at the very least, when discussions and arguments about girl groups happen here, and sometimes on reddit, I have seen, more times than I care to recall, interactions where Onces didn't just boast about touring but also declared any other type of achievement irrelevant.
Naturally, this question forms in my mind, and so many other people's, I'm sure: Are those achievements no longer relevant, or are they just saying that because Twice is no longer relevant enough outside of their fanbase to accomplish them?
It's a harsh question, but it's a reality any aging group will face. My all-time favorite group has Perfect All-Kills, a bunch of #1 hit songs, and even now has the most cumulative listeners on Melon of any girl group in history, but it doesn't hurt me to admit they're no longer relevant in categories they were dominant in during third generation.
What I'm about to quote is what we both agree on:
"Twice been there already and did it all and then some with digitals. Nothing left to prove. All icing on a very beautiful cake going forward."
That is my exact opinion on Mamamoo, so I won't criticize Onces who feel that way about Twice. I only take issue when they (and trust me, it isn't just Onces--another well-known fandom does this too) try to clown younger groups for not being able to tour like a near 10-year old veteran group paired with throwing shade at their achievements because suddenly only touring matters.
Me and some Dives and Blinks fought a lot last year apparently over metrics none of us care about any more
Maybe we don't interact with the same Onces. But you just referenced allkpop and reddit. I don't do much kpop reddit, but I frequent akp and mainly just topics that involve Twice...... I don't see what you see mostly. What I see are people that try to downplay Twice constantly bc they are no longer on top of digitals, and Onces bringing up rightfully that they are still killing it touring, which matters the most. I don't know what topics/threads you have been viewing, but I think I have a better grasp on what Onces have been saying in the majority. And I say that only bc I feel like I probably seen more Twice related threads than you have, just being a fan. I wouldn't focus on the minority, especially when they don't make sense.
But I agree with you, all these other metrics definitely still matter. They never didn't. Just again, I personally believe touring to be the biggest indicator of success. And I believe most musicians feel the same way.
And not for nothing, but Twice in their flop Set Me Free era was still the 3rd most streamed GG last year. I was shook. People need to get off the Twice are flops digitally also, bc basically 99% of other currently active GG's would love to flop the way Twice did last year(s)
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Now you're strawmanning me. This entire retort reads as if my position is that touring doesn't matter, and that Onces are being fools for boasting about Twice's touring power globally.
I don't know how that's possible, when you quoted my stating that there is nothing wrong with that.
Bragging about a metric is fine. I don't care. You've never seen me in Twice threads attacking Onces for doing that. Or any groups fans that like to brag.
But "Twice's touring is world class and deserves recognition" is an entirely different position from "Twice's touring is world class and no other metrics of success matter", especially when those metrics stopped mattering only once Twice stopped pulling any kind of relevant numbers in them.
As I said earlier, you can talk about industry and criteria shifts all day and night, but nobody wI'll be convinced that the people who fall into the second category wouldn't suddenly find those numbers relevant again if Twice returned to form.
If they get a PAK with their next title track and suddenly become relevant digitally again, the same people calling those achievements irrelevant will be making thread after thread bragging about them, just like they used to when Twice did that regularly in their peak.
If your issue is with people downplaying Twice's touring, your issue isn't with me. I've literally never done it
I don't see it this way at all, respectfully.
If they do, they're definitely in the minority.
The majority of Onces doesnt exactly say other metrics don't matter, just that touring is one of the biggest and truest factors of showing success.
Twice have had all the digital success in the world. You mentioned in your comment how Onces always used to brag about it. Why would Onces say this doesn't matter now? It doesn't make sense.
It's just that now, Onces got a bigger thing to brag about. High digitals again would of course be great, but again, Twice been there already and did it all and then some with digitals. Nothing left to prove. All icing on a very beautiful cake going forward.
So TLDR, of course other metrics are important, just not as important as touring power. And from what I usually see, most Onces kind of subscribe to that viewpoint also.
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I'm listening. TWICE entering their alternative rock era?
I'm kinda hoping its in the vein of Queen of Hearts a little now that you mention this
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Two queen leaders killing it as usual
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I looove outdoor sets for Twice. DTNA and Hare Hare are two of my favorite Twice videos only bc of how gorgeous they look in the outside shots.
I don't think this is gonna be a choreography heavy video/song, but I'm ok with that. I think this is gonna be a nice little song to hold us over to the title song
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I was shocked that was Jungyeon singing. I'm excited to see her slay a bit
