Posts by buffyfan


    My question is, what did Hybe initially accuse MHJ of to try and damage her reputation?


    And if the real reason for this was due the plagiarism claims as you're saying that MHJ claimed, then why couldn't MHJ just easily refute Hybes argument against her without bringing up the other groups if the claims weren't true?


    And I initially only blamed MHJ for the Illit hate, but after the Livestream and NJs mom comments, I'm giving a nice little amount of blame to them now also. I don't hate NJ in any way, but now I look at them differently. Before I saw just sweet innocent girls 24/7. But now I see that with that, they can also be pretty calculating.


    Hanni making a big deal about this alleged non-greeting from Illit or their manager telling them to ignore her (I can't keep the story straight bc NJs side keeps changing the story), with absolutely no proof is not a good look also. I understand maybe doing an internal complaint for something like this, but to do a whole live and mention it even though an investigation was already done and no proof was found is a little mean spirited, and I never saw Hanni/NJ that way. This could've been resolved internally.


    I know it was probably done with a higher motive of filing mistreatment claims (??) and getting out of Hybe or to get MHJ back as CEO, but she didn't have to it that way. And no hate to Hanni. I'm just disappointed she and NJs did that.


    And seriously asking, but did MHJ, NJs or their parents produce any legitimate evidence of what they have been claiming so far??? It seems like their whole side is just allegation after allegation and no proof of anything yet.


    To be fair, maybe Hybe hasn't produced any proof either lol. I'm not following them. But I'm honestly wondering about MHJ and NJs side bc their side is the one affecting the groups I like.

    You want to play the pity party? I'll give you one.

    Have your group ever get called "sluts, ungrateful bitches, liar, go back to your country Viet girl...." by inter kpopfans? Respectfully asking.

    Have your group ever get called "Newfty Newfty, bite the hands that feed you, betrayers, shut up and obey..." by the media (paid by hybe btw), male incels that hate women and stock uncles in Korea? Respectfully asking.


    Those are horrible comments and I don't agree with any talk like that about any females in general. Say what you what about guys tho. We're horrible.


    I still think MHJ played a dirty game by dragging Illit into it without any legit evidence of plagiarism. She's old enough and been in the game long enough to know what type of reaction her statements would bring to these young groups. did it out of insecurity and it's sad to see so many groups affected bc of this one woman and her insecurities. Even if there is similarities with a group you're in, you just have to get better or get over it. When you're impactful/successful/and making money, there's gonna be slight imitations. But plagiarism is a high burden to meet, and I don't see how Illit met it. But I definitely reserve my right to change my opinion if she produces some real evidence. Right now she's just alleging things with no proof and affecting groups bc of it.


    But not only it affecting LSF and Illit, I honestly think it's affecting NJ as well. Last year you couldn't find a soul to say they didn't like NJ. And now this whole thing have ppl actively choosing to not listen to NJ bc of what they think of them now. Like, imagine if this whole thing didn't happen and How Sweet/Bubble Gum came out. I don't know if it would've did as good as prior era's, but it definitely would've did better than it did. Illit would've smashed even more and Lucky Girl would still be charting hight. LSF I think would've did better also. I feel like this whole drama is doing more worst than good, for all parties involved. Except Aespa. Aespa rode that shit and I applaud it

    It doesn't make sense because you didn't read the timeline when MHJ received the evidence.


    Alright. Well, I feel like MHJ started complaining about Illit before summer started. And If she didn't have evidence back then, it's not a good look to already go public making complaints of plagiarism about Illit and their company.


    And if the evidence was recently obtained, I honestly don't feel like she will ever file a lawsuit for plagiarism against Illit bc the claim holds no weight. She could prove me wrong, but seeing already how she's been moving, I doubt it.

    Lmao that Tzuyu scientist moment was so relatable to me. I couldn't remember the choreo either!! I think it has something to do with the Scientist videos not really being recommended too much on YT? O feel like they were removed for a time being?? But yeah, I sometimes forget Scientist myself.


    I loved that they threw in the solo's also!! Chaeyoung doing Do Not Touch was too cute lol


    But wow, they really filled 6 min with 9 seconds of all (99% for me) me) memorable songs. What a busy little group


    This makes sense. So a law firm already told MHJ that there was no legit claims for plagiarism, so she's decided to play a public game and still go forward with trying to ruin a young group of girls (Illit) b/c she was jealous that another group might've took some inspiration from NJ.


    I been having some feelings as a Illit fan. But MHJ is a mess and should know better at her age. Seems like a greedy, jealous, insecure women. I say it respectfully.


    The NJ parents should know better also. Each of their statements seem a little unhinged and you could tell it wasn't proofread by anyone else.


    And New Jeans are starting to come off real entitled. I still haven't seen ANY legit claims of mistreatment from them. Just seems like they keep indicating Illit without any proof. They're starting to come off as bullies now with how much they keep stoking this situation and Illit not doing anything but trying to continue work.


    And it honestly just seems like the main complaint about Illit stems from jealousy. I already knew when this started and it was before NJ's comeback, that MHJ/NJ team was doing this bc they knew NJ's up coming songs weren't going to hit like they used to, and we're already mad that Illit was about to/were already smashing. And then NJ's songs came out and didn't make as much noise as before and I knew I was right. All MHJ had to do was make NJ better if she felt others were copying. Show everyone else that nothing is better than the original. But she took the insecure route.


    And I even feel bad for NJ. I considered myself a pretty big fan before. But this left such a sour taste in my mouth for them. Like I lost respect for Hanni after that live chat and claim. What was the purpose of bringing that up of not to generate even more hate for the group she was referencing. Last year they were on top of the world. Now they're losing fans bc of their, MHJ and their parents attitudes. Other GG's are doing better than them this year on all platforms it seems.

    I already see the set up narrative for Illit for if they do good in this thread. That it would only be due to payola. And imagine thinking Magnetic was only big due to Hype payola lmao.


    I hope both groups do well. Aespa is coming back from a national hit and underated gem Armageddon, so I think they have the advantage. But I would love for Illit to come out the victor and get all that publicity for coming out on top going against a huge group like Aespa. It wouldn't be anything to Aespa since they already have their huge moment for this year, and it would be good to see Illit rise from the ashes after all the unnecessary hate