Remember, Blinks should be streaming Babymonster instead of BlackPink members solo work
Yes and most blinks are korean wannabes
Remember, Blinks should be streaming Babymonster instead of BlackPink members solo work
Yes and most blinks are korean wannabes
Y’all are praising some mid mid album just to find reasons to hate on Lisa. It’s really that mid
I think this hate is a little synonymous to the over the top love they receive , I’m not a Lisa hater , she was my bias for a very long time , but her solos didn’t engage me at all . Infact Jennie was the only one whose solo music I was enjoying , rose was good but I was not hooked at all . Now back to the current situation , Lisa has been so much overhyped for so many small things by the fandom that the other started attacking her , also blinks being one of the most toxic and Lillies being equal toxic , she is a great performer , I remember Lillie’s dragging Jennie to the ground after their tours because Lisa/ Rosie seemed to the only one putting efforts in the performance . Todays scenario is culmination of everything , the truth is Lisa is not a singer and she should pick songs of her range I hope she does or do rap which I think supports her style better . She lipsyncs clearly and people are tired of Lillie’s being so toxic . So the hate coming to Lisa is because of this . I hope you understand this
Basically Jennie Stan pretends to Lisa’s stan
Display MoreI think there's a lot in play imo.
1. I thought her album was shallow and as a Lisa fan I wanted something more. She didn't deliver what I wanted for a Lisa album but there are some I liked. The songs I like and added to or still in my rotation are Born Again, New Woman, When I'm with You, Chill, and Dream. I just didn't vibe with certain features and tracks, and that's okay.
2. On twitter I am seeing a lot of the hate is from BTS stans. They've been targeting Jennie after release and the same accounts or going viral. I am not going to name the accounts to give them power but when you click on their profile it's usually BTS stans running it. They will disguise their accounts by saying they support Illit and Le Sserafim. I assume these accounts are in some kind of discord helping each other go viral with their hate tweets
3. Elephant in the room but I think there is some racism/xenophobia in play due to her being Thai. I hope I am wrong but I think people loved Lisa more when she was an underdog. I think there is some foul play in that people don't want the foreign idol especially if SEA to be the most popular member in a kpop group. I think there is some institutionalized racism regarding SEA people and it spills over to Lisa. In kpop I feel there's usually something when regarding non-korean members. We see it all the time where companies don't protect their foreign idols
4. I think her going public with her boyfriend was a mistake. I know he's uber rich but his hands are dirty with all of the things his family is involved in. That has spilled over to Lisa but I feel people are using that as a way to justify their hate. The thing that irks me about this is fans weren't ready for the relationship due to them contributing all of her success is because of him. I find it all crazy because Lisa was successful without him and she had opportunities before the relationship. Also, why wouldn't Lisa use resources if it's available to her?
5. She's the most popular idol, so hate will come her way. It's the never ending cycle in pop culture where people want to see popular people's downfall. Lisa is experiencing that and will continue to experience that because people want to see popular entertainers fall. Also, the attention you get from hating on Lisa must be like a drug for some of these people because they know it gets them attention. The unprofessional writer for Pitchfork is an exaple of that.
6. Kpop is competitive and many sharks see this as an opportunity to attack blackpink while they're weakened. Realistically, the group is too big to fall, but it doesn't seem to be stopping people from praying for their downfall. It's why I feel people are extra critical towards her and they know hate towards Lisa will generate clicks. It's the same with every hate cycle it's why Le Sserafim continues to get hate because the sharks smell blood and doesn't want them to compete with their favorites
In conclusion, there is a lot of factors in play for the current hate she's receiving. I feel people can just move on if they don't like her album or performances. However, many are using this as an opportunity to attack while she's weak. People's attitudes towards Lisa is not normal and she will be under a microscope until she proves people wrong.
Lastly, I am saying this as a Lisa fan but she needs to lock in and make some changes in her album creation process. I feel her team didn't do her any favors with her solo album. There's a lot of work when trying to break into the west. I think they have to tell a better story in who Lisa is because the album didn't really tell me much except that she's materialistic. I know she's more than that, but the average listener wouldn't know that. I wonder if she carry out her thought in Thai to better her express herself to her team. I thought production was great but lyrics needed a lot of work. Also, I think they need to figure out what kind of performer she wants to be. I think the album was her testing to see what her strengths are, so I am curious what she does for her sophomore album.
I hope she has a strong support system because it's not healthy for a person's mental health to be dealing with hate trains.
As Lisa hater*
based by Twitter Blinks dislike every Blackpink member, I think people should stop taking them seriously
This is pretty much it
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Gaslight. Most kboos are East Asian fetishizers. They will like anyone who looks East Asian. Doesn’t matter where they come from but East Asian features. Example of this is why Minnie and natty is more popular than Lisa in Korea. Kboos follow Korean trends. K-pop is now kinda dead in Thailand. Sea don’t stream K-pop anymore on YouTube. Thai people actually ban anything Korean and stop traveling there bc of their racism
People have been coming after Blackpink's performances for years, and it's something aimed at all members, not just Lisa. Compared to Jennie and Rose, Lisa's music has been especially under attack not just by fans but by critics, and the OP only mentions their music, so I think that it the primary concern to be honest.
Most of bad reviews are from Korean writers. Do you think this is normal?
Display MoreMaybe some of it is racism. But she's my long-time bias among the Blackpink members, and I can assure you that her album and songs are just worse than Jennie's and Rose's.
Lisa is still the most popular Blackpink member. Lisa is more popular, so she'll naturally have a bigger hatedom than Rose, so that will contribute to the amount of hate you see. It's just a numbers thing. Jennie has a similar sized hatedom, but even the worst they can say about her release is that "it's just okay." Rose? Her releases were also criticized, but Rose is less popular, so there's not as many people to toss out bait.
It also ignores otger reasons that people might use to dunk on Lisa e.g., she's overrated (just like they'll say all BP members are).
Lisa just needs to release good songs, and she'll shut the haters up, just like Jennie just did.
Like Jennie is no way any better.
comes from racism, and it has actually been there for a long time. But this is the perfect opportunity for everyone to speak out at the same time because many sides are starting to target Lisa. But in reality, it’s racism
They claim to review albums with valid opinions while comparing Lisa to Jennie and Rosé, despite the fact that the three of them have always been different in terms of personalities, language skills, and talents. Lisa has always created fun music and has consistently shown that this is her direction as an artist. Just because she’s not the second coming of Taylor Swift, they’ve used this ridiculous narrative to gang up on her. The real truth is that there is a deep-rooted hatred towards foreigners in K-pop. And since K-pop is losing its popularity in Southeast Asia, I will no longer support the activities of these groups, as I don’t want to contribute to perpetuating another racist standard that people in the West have been fighting against for years. It’s truly hypocritical.
They want her to fail so badly. Leaked her album. Try to sabotage her. Made hate tweets about that got over 500k likes. But all her singles debuted inside top 10 Spotify global. Her album alter ego reached 1 billion streams before its release. And she still pulled numbers even after her album leaked
Congrats to her!
Im surprised that her b-sides didnt enter the charts tho. I guess the release time/schedule confused people.
The album literally leaked
No wayyyyyyyy... I meannnnn Lifestyle is an absolute banger and definitely title track worthy but Fuck Up the world is a bangerrrrrr and TT worthy as well but also kinda holds all the songs together.... the bassss omgggggggg
No I can see her MV going viral where she is dancing and walking through the streets in public, switching between different cities like Bangkok, LA and others. Its filmed in real locations with genuine reactions from people. The scenes alternate with shots of her dancing alone on a stage, illuminated by a dramatic spotlight.
What she has an advantage over the others members is a huge loyal Thai fanbase (to be expected) that is an automatic ~2M streams every comeback.
Display MoreI can deny that and I will stand my ground. She overcame herself in Born Again's studio version and she definetly does not seems like a featured artist. Like I said, the lines are very balanced and her vocal did match Reye's.
Besides, an artist isn't stricly a singer. Lisa is a performer and a great dancer, but that doesn't means Born Again doesn't displays her own personal artistic take. Artists often create characters to perform scenes they haven't actually been through and she's imprinting her own artistic persona into it.
Lisa's releases aren't the most intimate or raw. And it doesn't matter really. Lisa is putting out what she wants and it seems like she's living her mainstream western pop performer dream for now and she's doing a great job at it. And dreams can also change, let us enjoy even if you got sick of the genre.
Seems like you are also implying that good music does not reaches to autotune, which is safe to say that you are wrong. Ever since Cher, a great performer and vocalist, made autotune popular, many other "good music" came out sporting autotune's tech.
So yeah, Lisa's may have used autotune in Born Again and so what? The music is good even if you didn't like it.
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ATP is a meme song. It’s like that momoland song to me