Mm we can agree to disagree; AKP is extremely shady all around and the Coke mention was unnecessary, but congrats to BP (not kidding, either, their CFs are great)
Posts by NaomiBlue
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The thing that makes kpop music different from western pop music is it's mixture of genres, arrangement and unconventional composition. Maybe more experimental? We can't expect Billie Eillish or Twenty One Pilots from kpop. But we can expect unorthodox structure and composition from kpop. Maybe it feels disjointed at first. It's because people are not adapted to it. But listening to it after several times you will realise how those unexpected turns are so smooth & fun. Also western music critics are interested in kpop because of this uniqueness, those unexpected beat & melody changes. I follow one Canadian kpop music reviewer and reading his reviews make me appreciate production quality of kpop music more. At the same time western pop music is losing it's originality too. So I think it is a good opportunity for groups like NCT, SKZ and ATEEZ. They have really great production team. Not to mention NCT has whole western producers. Also their music feels more up to date and original to me.
I respect that, even tho' I disagree!
I personally think NCT, SKZ, and ATEEZ are mostly using older EDM sounds and production as opposed to the new, hip-hop banger style techniques and layering they would need to sound current? I see the way it's mixed up as very different. I agree on pop being stale, but I think that's why hip-hop dominates in the west and especially America. Much more creativity and interesting sounds coming out of it. Like listening to the top 20 viral songs on AM and Spotify it's mostly HH and it sounds nothing like kpop. Where kpop sounds like old EDM to me.
But I avoid saying 'western producers' because I think great production can come from anywhere in the world, and often I think Kpop, because it pays less, isn't usually using A++ offerings and producers regardless of where they're from? Also, they need more creative rapping and flows to be respected if they're going with the rap-heavy music styles.
So - but I recognize this is just my opinion! - I don't think NCT/SKZ/ATZ will break big until they do have 2021 tiktok sounds if they want to be noisey and they freshen up their rap.
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I mean that's how taste works, especially with something as subjective as music? I love talking about quality but in the end the line between 'objective fact' and 'taste + opinion' is llight and moving and different for everyone.
Lay out your faves and we can all discuss comparative standards, I'm not even being sarcastic.
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Kpop music production is top notch it just lacks originality.
Hm valid - although I'm not sure I agree fully (but that's why it's an interesting topic!) because while often the production is smooth and put together well from a pure sound modulation point of view, there's often a lot of disjointed parts? I know the 'it's noise!' thing is used way too often just for fanwarring, but what can bother me is how it's common to just jump into a 'hype' section or change style too suddenly, if that makes sense?
Like I call it Frankenmusic bc at times it just feels slapped together as opposed to carefully planned out or based on music theory. I love loud, banger music, but I want it to make sense to me from a musical narrative point of view and those beat drops to be earned. The best hiphop and pop producers are masters of making their music satisfying that way. The originality is the other side of it, I agree there - often the best songs in kpop that are laid out well seem like they're heavily influenced by other songs as opposed to fully fresh. (and usually songs a couple of years old at least)
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Kpop needs better produced, more current music overall to move to the next level internationally. (not a reaction, I say this all the time)
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It's a really fun vibe, matches their voices well, and that chorus beat is refreshing and catchy!
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It's so fast on both mobile and comp
Dark mode is a lot better integrated
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I'm not 100% sure because I could have misunderstood. But from what I understand, they'll be more loose in what will be branded a 'bashing' thread?
Hmmm I'm hoping this rule:
2d. Unproven claims
When making a concrete claim, please provide sources of reliable nature. Without a verifiable source, the thread may be deleted, altered or moved to the gossip section.
will be heavily enforced, bc if not yeah, I see what you mean! there's nothing against attack of idols/famous people at all.
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Apparently there'll be more loosely in the department of talking shit about idols. Since there won't be a bashing thread anymore. Or that's at least how I interpreted the words of a mod.
Oh! So they'll allow MORE of it?!
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She's an honest-to-goodness ww hit; I love that people are carrying it's hopeful energy into 2021
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Yes! There's their technical poweress, which is impressive, but what makes them legends and so incredible is how they express themselves, emotion, and complex idea via lyricism, flow, and a variety of vocal tones. The anguish in Tear, the bemused regret in Her, the playful dismissal of Ddaeng - their range is unrivaled.
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They look absolutely stunning here!
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