Does Lesserafim feel like a cash grab?

  • Does Lesserafim feel like they’re here just to get easy money from Izone stans and Hybe stans? Do they feel a little “inorganic”?

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  • I believe they are because they know just because some of the members are ex Izone members. And then some are company stans will buy their albums and such as well simply because of their label. It won't matter if the songs are good or anything the label knows people will buy it no matter what they do. They could put out complete trash and people will find a way to convince themselves they like it.

  • Feels like it's gonna be like a short lived group. Like enhypen and all the other groups hybe is gonna debut in the next year.

    Gonna take fans money fast and securely and after that discard them for newer faces...

  • When doesn't K-pop feel like a cash grab?

  • Oh for sure, it's a throw together. But you never know. YG only debuted Blackpink because they were the last trainees standing and at least one of them had parents he didn't want to piss off. And now look. I don't think putting care and time into assembling a group necessarily reflects in its popularity.

  • Feels like that because of how little care they took when choosing the members. Sakura doesn't fit the model concept at all, Chaewon at least has the aura for it but lacks the proportions so she fit the other members either, Garam doesn't have a clean past, the visuals kind of look plastic-y and over-edited, the only really good looking ones are Yunjin and Kazuha, etc.


    Starting to feel like Ador is meant to be their real girl group.

  • all kpop idol groups are cash grabs

  • They are but it doesn't mean they can't be a good group. We don't know if the model concept is only for their debut or that's their general concept. Half of the members were chosen because of their popularity and not because it would fit on a group together.

  • Feels like that because of how little care they took when choosing the members. Sakura doesn't fit the model concept at all, Chaewon at least has the aura for it but lacks the proportions so she fit the other members either, Garam doesn't have a clean past, the visuals kind of look plastic-y and over-edited, the only really good looking ones are Yunjin and Kazuha, etc.


    Starting to feel like Ador is meant to be their real girl group.

    *her accusers have already been disproved but I am gonna pretend they weren't

    *I am running out of ideas

    There, I fixed it for you.

  • Oh for sure, it's a throw together. But you never know. YG only debuted Blackpink because they were the last trainees standing and at least one of them had parents he didn't want to piss off. And now look. I don't think putting care and time into assembling a group necessarily reflects in its popularity.

    Not how it went. They were still numerous trainees left before the final decision was made. They frequently shuffled the members for the monthly evaluations and decided against 9 members because the unit of the 4 worked the best.


    Regarding the topic. It's pretty obvious that Lesserafim is a quick cash grab. Sakura and even more Kazuha show that. Debuting a trainee that can barely speak the language with less than 6 month Kpop trainee experience screams rushed. I would even say that's unheard for the big companies.


    The question is does that really matter? The chemistry will be there at some point and you can easily hide members that are lacking during performances.

  • Not how it went. They were still numerous trainees left before the final decision was made. They frequently shuffled the members for the monthly evaluations and decided against 9 members because the unit of the 4 worked the best.


    Regarding the topic. It's pretty obvious that Lesserafim is a quick cash grab. Sakura and even more Kazuha show that. Debuting a trainee that can barely speak the language with less than 6 month Kpop trainee experience screams rushed. I would even say that's unheard for the big companies.


    The question is does that really matter? The chemistry will be there at some point and you can easily hide members that are lacking during performances.

    for someone who was only a kpop trainee for 6 months, she speaks Korean very well. Plus, it's not unheard of, Giselle also had a training period of less than a year, and she did not have a background in dancing.


    Sakura has been speaking Korean for a while now, she can speak the language well enough.

  • Smh. When Izone/IOI girls get sent back to small companies or nugu groups they're being mistreated, when they get picked up by a big company for a pushed debut, it's a cash grab.


    I'll admit I don't like the direction HYBE seems to be going, but I'm super happy Sakura and Chaewon get another chance like this.

  • Ive been saying this for ages, Ador will be the main gg and the only threat to other top ggs. Plus they have last debut advantage which was also an advantage to BP.

  • ptsd for blinks


    idk how blinks stays with yg with the amount of bs they pulled on BP

  • Case #9372435127522712678 of salty bitches dragging Enhypen into shit they have nothing to do with. :cryingr:

  • This thread reek of insecurity and bitterness. Newsflash all groups are created to make money in case yall thought your faves were somehow created out of the kindness of the ceo's heart lmao pathetic.

  • The fact that they add sakura and kazuha who aren't fluent in korea yet indicates that the claim is true and they also added controversial visual member garam. So this group intented to be quick cashgrab in international market

  • Enhypen is a top tier 4th gen bg achieving a lot like the fastest & youngest kpop etc. Why will their career be short-lived? Belift/ Hybe already planned their career for long term. Sorry, ur probably just jealous if u think it’s gonna be short-lived. The mere fact that they have many haters spell relevance. If they are not a threat, no one will even pay attention to them.

    Feels like it's gonna be like a short lived group. Like enhypen and all the other groups hybe is gonna debut in the next year.

    Gonna take fans money fast and securely and after that discard them for newer faces...

  • and if u think labels dont think of money when launching a grp,u are all delusional!


    In order to stay longer in kpop, u need to have a balance of talent,good music ( global taste), marketability & visual. Having oozing charisma will separate some grps from the rest.

  • Some of you Ador fans are becoming very annoying and bitter ever since Le sserafim was confirmed to be Hybe's 'first GG'. Where did you get your confidence from that you're somehow more special than other groups under Hybe? Let's be real, every company under Hybe is treated the same maybe except for the OG that is Bighit.

    I remember when Enhypen was formed through a survival show, everyone had sworn to god they are a cash grab too but look at them now? smashing records harder than even TXT with good music/choreography.

    Now, take a look at Le sserafim's intro videos, it's obvious Hybe has poured a lot of money in them, it means Hybe is confident and have high expectations for them. They also have Bang PD producing their music and have BTS's favorite stylist as creative director, that's Bighit's OG staffs. You really think Hybe is going half-ass them? maybe some intern staffs are bad at photoshops but the core team is still there. You're gonna have to cope with soon because their hype is through the roofs and they haven't even released any music yet.

  • Who told you Enhypen is gonna be a short-lived group? Is that your cherished dream?

    Because if it was a group aimed to become a house name they would put more effort for them and not bybe be ready to debut 5 other groups in such a short while.

    Even Japan which is where they have more fans is gonna forget about them since a new Japanese group is gonna debut shortly.

    And I don't dream about enhypen, I couldn't care less. I named them just because that's the reality of the situation.

  • Enhypen is a top tier 4th gen bg achieving a lot like the fastest & youngest kpop etc. Why will their career be short-lived? Belift/ Hybe already planned their career for long term. Sorry, ur probably just jealous if u think it’s gonna be short-lived. The mere fact that they have many haters spell relevance. If they are not a threat, no one will even pay attention to them.

    I really am no hater... it's just the reality of the situation.

    I'm an army and I know what happens in the company.

    People can have different opinions from you and not be an anti, yk :pepe-tea:

  • Because if it was a group aimed to become a house name they would put more effort for them and not bybe be ready to debut 5 other groups in such a short while.

    Even Japan which is where they have more fans is gonna forget about them since a new Japanese group is gonna debut shortly.

    And I don't dream about enhypen, I couldn't care less. I named them just because that's the reality of the situation.

    Hahahaha!

    Enhypen debuted 1 year 4 months ago. They had enough time to become a top group and achieved so much even before their first anniversary. No other boy groups have debuted yet. So what makes you think Hybe is gonna get rid of them soon?

    Who told you the Japanese group will steal their fans? They have different fanbases.

    It's far from the truth. You're clearly lying and passong your fantasies as reality. Pathetic. ^^

  • I really am no hater... it's just the reality of the situation.

    I'm an army and I know what happens in the company.

    People can have different opinions from you and not be an anti, yk :pepe-tea:

    ur an army & still insecure? who do we resort to insulting grps we dont like & call it an opinion? 😂 And my opinion is that, despite BTS being the best , u dont want anyone to succeed in Hybe coz that’s what insecure people do.

  • I really am no hater... it's just the reality of the situation.

    I'm an army and I know what happens in the company.

    People can have different opinions from you and not be an anti, yk :pepe-tea:

    ohh some know it all again. Thinking they know more . No u dont! Ur just a fan who thinks too highly of urself. All Hybe groups are relevant. Just because BTS paved the way, it doesnt mean everyone is irrelevant or beneath them. And why single out Enhypen? What made u think you know better? Are u an executive of Hybe or part of their management. Ur not special at all so dont speak of Enhypen if they are not part of this issue.


    BTS is the best but they stay humble. Some of their fans need to be the same & stop being toxic.

  • Another day and another episode of entitled engines fans insulting people just because they don't share the same opinion.

    Keep your "TOP" group story :pepe-hehe: and stop terrorizing anyone who doesn't care about enhypen

  • ohh some know it all again. Thinking they know more . No u dont! Ur just a fan who thinks too highly of urself. All Hybe groups are relevant. Just because BTS paved the way, it doesnt mean everyone is irrelevant or beneath them. And why single out Enhypen? What made u think you know better? Are u an executive of Hybe or part of their management. Ur not special at all so dont speak of Enhypen if they are not part of this issue.


    BTS is the best but they stay humble. Some of their fans need to be the same & stop being toxic.

    Singled them out !!!!!! LMAO

    I said their name because they're the first group from the bunch of the new groups is gonna debut. Who should I name besides them since no other one has still debuted ?!

    And no, you're being toxic. Everytime I interact with enhypen fans here or somewhere else you guys don't do anything besides insulting. I wonder if this is how army have been seen as in the past, because if it is that's awful

  • Singled them out !!!!!! LMAO

    I said their name because they're the first group from the bunch of the new groups is gonna debut. Who should I name besides them since no other one has still debuted ?!

    And no, you're being toxic. Everytime I interact with enhypen fans here or somewhere else you guys don't do anything besides insulting. I wonder if this is how army have been seen as in the past, because if it is that's awful

    I mean back when bts just started in the west there were non stop threads that said the same things you are right now, that their succes will be short lived and they will lose relevance, and that another boygroup will replace them, I remember armies trying to counter their argument then called toxic for it


    I guess everything just comes a full circle eventually ....


    also don't get the hate bonner for these new hybe groups especially from armies like why?

  • Another day and another episode of entitled engines fans insulting people just because they don't share the same opinion.

    Keep your "TOP" group story :pepe-hehe: and stop terrorizing anyone who doesn't care about enhypen

    They're top without the quotation marks whether you like it or not. If you didn't care about them, you wouldn't talk bullshit in a thread that has nothing to do with them. Now sit your irrelevant ass down and talk about those you "care about".

  • Some of you Ador fans are becoming very annoying and bitter ever since Le sserafim was confirmed to be Hybe's 'first GG'. Where did you get your confidence from that you're somehow more special than other groups under Hybe? Let's be real, every company under Hybe is treated the same maybe except for the OG that is Bighit.

    I remember when Enhypen was formed through a survival show, everyone had sworn to god they are a cash grab too but look at them now? smashing records harder than even TXT with good music/choreography.

    Now, take a look at Le sserafim's intro videos, it's obvious Hybe has poured a lot of money in them, it means Hybe is confident and have high expectations for them. They also have Bang PD producing their music and have BTS's favorite stylist as creative director, that's Bighit's OG staffs. You really think Hybe is going half-ass them? maybe some intern staffs are bad at photoshops but the core team is still there. You're gonna have to cope with soon because their hype is through the roofs and they haven't even released any music yet.

    Istg they're getting so annoying lately. They think really superior of their ngg.

  • Ive been saying this for ages, Ador will be the main gg and the only threat to other top ggs. Plus they have last debut advantage which was also an advantage to BP.

    Last gg will be iland gg. I think you all are overestimating girls. Those 2 girls from ptd look so basic. I think they'll debut with a cute concept and won't have a hardcore fanbase. They'll be female version of txt.

  • They're top without the quotation marks whether you like it or not. If you didn't care about them, you wouldn't talk bullshit in a thread that has nothing to do with them. Now sit your irrelevant ass down and talk about those you "care about".

    This is a fk forum, something you can't seem to understand, there's a thread and I have all the freedom to post whatever I want. I didn't insult you fk group, so YOU better sit you pathetic ass down and learn to accept that there's people who can have a different opinion than you.

    And if you can't see the correlation of this thread to enhypen its your fault. Like, get some text comprehension lessons

    I mean back when bts just started in the west there were non stop threads that said the same things you are right now, that their succes will be short lived and they will lose relevance, and that another boygroup will replace them, I remember armies trying to counter their argument then called toxic for it


    I guess everything just comes a full circle eventually ....


    also don't get the hate bonner for these new hybe groups especially from armies like why?

    ffs what hate boner. Can you guys understand what you're reading ?


    It's not the same as bts, because here I'm talking about future groups debuting in the same company in the span of 2 and a half years. How is that the same as saying some other kpop group in general can take bts place.


    Engines you really need to come down your pedestal and see what the world is really about.

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