By not giving them album but engaging them in other stupid actitivies (games, merches, webtoons) to make money.. So they could push their other groups as money makers and make it seem like they're not dependent on bts anymore?
It can backfire because I don't see any of their new groups leading their gen like bts did, armys might drop bts for other groups. Many around me are already on it.
Obviously.
That's the point. It doesn't matter they don't have what it takes to lead the generation, it doesn't matter if they stan different hybe groups, they just want to keep armys for profit.
armys have already started dropping bts. Alot of multiarmys dropped bts in pandemic. Now they only stan other groups. Why do you think everyone else is growing so big? Stayarmys became stays, moarmys became moas, armyengenes became engenes, armyzens became nctzens. Just look at boygroup fandom guilds on the forum. All of them are filled with ex armys and multiarmys who will drop bts this year. Alot of armys are looking forward to trainee a to stan them because they seem to be hiphop group.
armys have already started dropping bts. Alot of multiarmys dropped bts in pandemic. Now they only stan other groups. Why do you think everyone else is growing so big? Stayarmys became stays, moarmys became moas, armyengenes became engenes, armyzens became nctzens. Just look at boygroup fandom guilds on the forum. All of them are filled with ex armys and multiarmys who will drop bts this year. Alot of armys are looking forward to trainee a to stan them because they seem to be hiphop group.
Most of the armys around me stan skz and ateez and they mostly only share about them on sns and seem to be really passionate about how they chart and sell.
Them not getting an album might be hybe, but we shouldn't pressure bts for their cb. However, its VERY clear what hybe is trying to do... Posting everyone's (txt, 17, enha) content on available platforms like yt so GP can find it easier, but keeping run bts on weverse. BP has documentaries on both Disney+ and Netflix, but hybe keeps bts' on weverse (except for the first viewing, that's in theaters) & you KNOW these companies would be totally down to work with bts. Also, lately bts' discography has been getting a lot of attention on tiktok (nothing huge huge yet, but its interesting to see its NOT led by army/kpop fans), so if they knew how to handle bts well, they could be cementing their status next to the likes of MJ and such instead of a listers like Ari, jb,..
In the end, they are just shooting themselves in the foot tho bc even if more armymultis are dropping bts for their other hybe faves, the biggest part of army won't ever care for other hybe groups & they will leave kpop/hybe the second bts is done. Its gonna be a field day when hybe truly realises that
Maybe BTS themselves just got tired of releasing music non-stop like before so now they want to do it once in a while and rest? You know even though BTS got really big, they're still Koreans and have Koreans' mindset that when you get older, after you've overworked yourself and made tons of money, you just want to take your time and rest, let the newbies rise which will help the Kpop industry grow as a whole. If I were BTS, I would also want to just chill now, maybe enjoy my life privately or date someone. I mean I've achieved everything I wanted in life, I don't have to be desperate for success anymore.
Maybe BTS themselves just got tired of releasing music non-stop like before so now they want to do it once in a while and rest? You know even though BTS got really big, they're still Koreans and have Koreans' mindset that when you get older, after you've overworked yourself and made tons of money, you just want to take your time and rest, let the newbies rise which will help the Kpop industry grow as a whole. If I were BTS, I would also want to just chill now, maybe enjoy my life privately or date someone. I mean I've achieved everything I wanted in life, I don't have to be desperate for success anymore.
V yesterday wrote 2 songs within 30 minutes and u want me to believe they don't want to release music anymore?
Them not getting an album might be hybe, but we shouldn't pressure bts for their cb. However, its VERY clear what hybe is trying to do... Posting everyone's (txt, 17, enha) content on available platforms like yt so GP can find it easier, but keeping run bts on weverse. BP has documentaries on both Disney+ and Netflix, but hybe keeps bts' on weverse (except for the first viewing, that's in theaters) & you KNOW these companies would be totally down to work with bts. Also, lately bts' discography has been getting a lot of attention on tiktok (nothing huge huge yet, but its interesting to see its NOT led by army/kpop fans), so if they knew how to handle bts well, they could be cementing their status next to the likes of MJ and such instead of a listers like Ari, jb,..
In the end, they are just shooting themselves in the foot tho bc even if more armymultis are dropping bts for their other hybe faves, the biggest part of army won't ever care for other hybe groups & they will leave kpop/hybe the second bts is done. Its gonna be a field day when hybe truly realises that
I'm not pressuring bts to release any music in fact bts aren't the only act I stan so I'm not even starved for music . But it looks like hybe is holding bts back for the benefit of their other groups. If they want bts to rest they wouldn't have them involved in other non music activities theyre still actively working hard. And their strategy isn't even working because txt is stuck at those 800_900k sales and enhypen doing better only because they don't largely depend on bts.
I'm kinda disappointed with big hit. All they've given armys is merchs and that useless webtoon. There was no point in doing it unlike the previous one. At the end of day, armys stanned BTS for their music and when there is none, they'll get it somewhere. I wonder how many armys will stay until their next comeback because a lot of things can happen in just a span of weeks or months.
I'm not saying they want to stop releasing music. they would still do if of course since they love music, but I feel that they don't have to be pressured to release it as much as before. like now they can freely do some osts, releasing some solo songs , working on different projects etc. who knows. BTS are only human, not working robots, they can get tired as they get older, some members can't do intense choreography and promoting non-stop like when they were younger anymore. I keep seeing news of them having some health issues and now y'all want to them keep working like before? let's be realistic, there's no point for it anymore, there's nothing for them to prove anymore. As I said, they've reached a point that they don't have to work really hard like some rookie groups, so they can release 1 album per year and that's fine.
I'm kinda disappointed with big hit. All they've given armys is merchs and that useless webtoon. There was no point in doing it unlike the previous one. At the end of day, armys stanned BTS for their music and when there is none, they'll get it somewhere. I wonder how many armys will stay until their next comeback because a lot of things can happen in just a span of weeks or months.
Do u know that webtoon isn't even based on their theory (this goes for every hybe group). Groups were already created by naver and then they had a deal with hybe (since bts's previous webtoon was a huge success) and they cased txt, enhypen and bts.
I'm kinda disappointed with big hit. All they've given armys is merchs and that useless webtoon. There was no point in doing it unlike the previous one. At the end of day, armys stanned BTS for their music and when there is none, they'll get it somewhere. I wonder how many armys will stay until their next comeback because a lot of things can happen in just a span of weeks or months.
They're following yg's strategy but forgot that blinks are always engage in hyping up girls solo activities. That's why they remain active and competent.
Maybe BTS themselves just got tired of releasing music non-stop like before so now they want to do it once in a while and rest? You know even though BTS got really big, they're still Koreans and have Koreans' mindset that when you get older, after you've overworked yourself and made tons of money, you just want to take your time and rest, let the newbies rise which will help the Kpop industry grow as a whole. If I were BTS, I would also want to just chill now, maybe enjoy my life privately or date someone. I mean I've achieved everything I wanted in life, I don't have to be desperate for success anymore.
Good point 
I like what bts doing rn :
Members taking turn putting out their solos/ mixtapes
Making one full album every two years. Even three 
Releasing few singles/collabs between
Touring if possible
Having more freedom/ time for their health, hobbies, love ones...
Kinda like a rock legend's lifestyle 
I'm not saying they want to stop releasing music. they would still do if of course since they love music, but I feel that they don't have to be pressured to release it as much as before. like now they can freely do some osts, releasing some solo songs , working on different projects etc. who knows. BTS are only human, not working robots, they can get tired as they get older, some members can't do intense choreography and promoting non-stop like when they were younger anymore. I keep seeing news of them having some health issues and now y'all want to them keep working like before? let's be realistic, there's no point for it anymore, there's nothing for them to prove anymore. As I said, they've reached a point that they don't have to work really hard like some rookie groups, so they can release 1 album per year and that's fine.
Then I hope your favourite company gives them an actual break.
TXT just Had a Collab with that mad as Disney girl and Alan walker. And they released a full album and a repackage last year.
Your favs aren't the biggest group in the world rn. Let's not compare.
the victimization of grown men... They're the biggest group not only in the company but in the world. They share percentage in the company (even if it could be minimal), they always talk about how they have free will to produce and release whatever they wish and y'all still think that hybe could EVER even attempt to hold them back? In worst scenario bts would breach their contracts and set themselves free if they had it that bad. Sure, they would have to pay tons of money but hybe would suffer the greater loss. Let's stop acting like bts are kids who don't have any say and don't have the right to make their own choices
I'm not pressuring bts to release any music in fact bts aren't the only act I stan so I'm not even starved for music . But it looks like hybe is holding bts back for the benefit of their other groups. If they want bts to rest they wouldn't have them involved in other non music activities theyre still actively working hard. And their strategy isn't even working because txt is stuck at those 800_900k sales and enhypen doing better only because they don't largely depend on bts.
No i actually agree. While we dont know whats the reason for not releasing an album, hybe is really trying to make their other groups benefit from bts void, but its not working..
17 & enha have their own strong fandom, but txt is barely growing bc a big part is still army and while they might talk about them online & give them some streams while bts is on hiatus, most of them don't actually buy their album or they would be beating all of these 4th gen leading groups instead of tailing after them..
the victimization of grown men... They're the biggest group not only in the company but in the world. They share percentage in the company (even if it could be minimal), they always talk about how they have free will to produce and release whatever they wish and y'all still think that hybe could EVER even attempt to hold them back? In worst scenario bts would breach their contracts and set themselves free if they had it that bad. Sure, they would have to pay tons of money but hybe would suffer the greater loss. Let's stop acting like bts are kids who don't have any say and don't have the right to make their own choices
aaand company stans have entered..
No one was making a victim of bts, just pointing out hybes obviousness in their attemps to direct army to some of their other groups while gatekeeping bts' shows in their own platforms. Can't believe anyone would DARE to point that out..
Also funny how huge artists like ts, Kanye, megan,.. have openly admitted to being held back by their labels, but bts? NEVER! Delusional hybe stans. You dont have to be a victim/mistreated to be held back by your label from reaching even bigger things.
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fuck Hybe really
the victimization of grown men... They're the biggest group not only in the company but in the world. They share percentage in the company (even if it could be minimal), they always talk about how they have free will to produce and release whatever they wish and y'all still think that hybe could EVER even attempt to hold them back? In worst scenario bts would breach their contracts and set themselves free if they had it that bad. Sure, they would have to pay tons of money but hybe would suffer the greater loss. Let's stop acting like bts are kids who don't have any say and don't have the right to make their own choices
They have like 0.008 shares in the company. You guys act like bts run the company and have a say in every decision that company makes. Y'all better stop this shit because if someday hybe gets reveals to be doing some shade business antis are gonna drag bts too.
Did bts want nfts too?
for now I am not sure
if there is no comeback news until sep then I will revive this thread
to be honest if this is the case, then stray kids and ateez are most likely to get benefitted from it then TXT and enhyphen, because they have that hiphop bts vibe in them. so HYBE is literally shooting themselves in foot.
aaand company stans have entered..
No one was making a victim of bts, just pointing out hybes obviousness in their attemps to direct army to some of their other groups while gatekeeping bts' shows in their own platforms. Can't believe anyone would DARE to point that out..
Also funny how huge artists like ts, Kanye, megan,.. have openly admitted to being held back by their labels, but bts? NEVER! Delusional hybe stans. You dont have to be a victim/mistreated to be held back by your label from reaching even bigger things.
Of course you would call a company stan someone who doesn't agree with your sob story of 30 years old powerful men being held in the dungeon..
you are an army that's why you only notice hybe's stupid tactics towards bts. Hybe however has those same tacticts towards their other groups. Let's take for example enhypen. They scored two viral hits among the kpop community - fever and polaroid love. Hybe did absolutely NOTHING to sustain the hype. No special mvs, no promotions and performances, nothing. I'll give you another example. Enhypen's fandom has been complaining about the constant drop of merch and I thought they're overreacting at first so I checked in. It turned out that nearly every single month hybe has dropped merch. Enhypen's merch sells like crazy and hybe is milking their fandom dry.
So basically, I believe hybe is very incompetent in some cases, not only to bts but to their other groups too. They don't know how to handle so much hype and fame. BUT what I don't believe is that hybe went to bts and told them "we don't allow you to drop any album this year"
Them not getting an album might be hybe, but we shouldn't pressure bts for their cb. However, its VERY clear what hybe is trying to do... Posting everyone's (txt, 17, enha) content on available platforms like yt so GP can find it easier, but keeping run bts on weverse. BP has documentaries on both Disney+ and Netflix, but hybe keeps bts' on weverse (except for the first viewing, that's in theaters) & you KNOW these companies would be totally down to work with bts. Also, lately bts' discography has been getting a lot of attention on tiktok (nothing huge huge yet, but its interesting to see its NOT led by army/kpop fans), so if they knew how to handle bts well, they could be cementing their status next to the likes of MJ and such instead of a listers like Ari, jb,..
In the end, they are just shooting themselves in the foot tho bc even if more armymultis are dropping bts for their other hybe faves, the biggest part of army won't ever care for other hybe groups & they will leave kpop/hybe the second bts is done. Its gonna be a field day when hybe truly realises that
Because if they don't limit bts's content to weverse, shareholders (like naver) will never invest in weverse. Why do u think they ended Vlive the biggest and most profitable kpop app for weverse? Naver invested in weverse and in return they got those webtoons.
aaand company stans have entered..
No one was making a victim of bts, just pointing out hybes obviousness in their attemps to direct army to some of their other groups while gatekeeping bts' shows in their own platforms. Can't believe anyone would DARE to point that out..
Also funny how huge artists like ts, Kanye, megan,.. have openly admitted to being held back by their labels, but bts? NEVER! Delusional hybe stans. You dont have to be a victim/mistreated to be held back by your label from reaching even bigger things.
U made a valid point by bringing kanye and Taylor.
for now I am not sure
if there is no comeback news until sep then I will revive this thread
to be honest if this is the case, then stray kids and ateez are most likely to get benefitted from it then TXT and enhyphen, because they have that hiphop bts vibe in them. so HYBE is literally shooting themselves in foot.
Yup please do that and ill be really happy if it backfires they deserve it.
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fuck Hybe really
Of course you would call a company stan someone who doesn't agree with your sob story of 30 years old powerful men being held in the dungeon..
you are an army that's why you only notice hybe's stupid tactics towards bts. Hybe however has those same tacticts towards their other groups. Let's take for example enhypen. They scored two viral hits among the kpop community - fever and polaroid love. Hybe did absolutely NOTHING to sustain the hype. No special mvs, no promotions and performances, nothing. I'll give you another example. Enhypen's fandom has been complaining about the constant drop of merch and I thought they're overreacting at first so I checked in. It turned out that nearly every single month hybe has dropped merch. Enhypen's merch sells like crazy and hybe is milking their fandom dry.
So basically, I believe hybe is very incompetent in some cases, not only to bts but to their other groups too. They don't know how to handle so much hype and fame. BUT what I don't believe is that hybe went to bts and told them "we don't allow you to drop any album this year"
They performed polaroid love once it got viral. Bts's songs go viral all the time hybe never put no effort into promoting them.
And that merch thing is the same for every group. I'm not sure about enhypen but I follow hybe's page on twt and they even promote their other acts covers like a cb with teaser and interview.
Of course you would call a company stan someone who doesn't agree with your sob story of 30 years old powerful men being held in the dungeon..
you are an army that's why you only notice hybe's stupid tactics towards bts. Hybe however has those same tacticts towards their other groups. Let's take for example enhypen. They scored two viral hits among the kpop community - fever and polaroid love. Hybe did absolutely NOTHING to sustain the hype. No special mvs, no promotions and performances, nothing. I'll give you another example. Enhypen's fandom has been complaining about the constant drop of merch and I thought they're overreacting at first so I checked in. It turned out that nearly every single month hybe has dropped merch. Enhypen's merch sells like crazy and hybe is milking their fandom dry.
So basically, I believe hybe is very incompetent in some cases, not only to bts but to their other groups too. They don't know how to handle so much hype and fame. BUT what I don't believe is that hybe went to bts and told them "we don't allow you to drop any album this year"
This exactly what company stans do.. instead of reading the actual complaints (hybe focussing so much on non music content & keeping all of bts' behind a paywall while putting the others on yt), y'all will dramatise whatever is being said bc y'all have no actual counter argument. No one was saying the things you claim we said? Also, you dont think ts or kanye are powerful 30y+ people & still got held back?
If even you can see hybes incompetence with enha, how are you here defending them when armys are sharing their dissatisfaction with hybe? Just bc bts build that whole company from the ground, doesn't mean they are involved with literally every decision made there.. or do you think all of the members wanted nfts too? Literally any fandom can complain about their faves' company (nct/exo/.. with sm, treasure/BP with yg), but oh no if army dare to share their complaints about hybe!!
They performed polaroid love once it got viral. Bts's songs go viral all the time hybe never put no effort into promoting them.
And that merch thing is the same for every group. I'm not sure about enhypen but I follow hybe's page on twt and they even promote their other acts covers like a cb with teaser and interview.
Polaroid love got perfomed once as it was a scheduled performance. They didn't promote on music shows or anywhere else
And they didn't do anything about fever too
See, exactly my point, hybe does this for each group
This exactly what company stans do.. instead of reading the actual complaints (hybe focussing so much on non music content & keeping all of bts' behind a paywall while putting the others on yt), y'all will dramatise whatever is being said bc y'all have no actual counter argument. No one was saying the things you claim we said? Also, you dont think ts or kanye are powerful 30y+ people & still got held back?
If even you can see hybes incompetence with enha, how are you here defending them when armys are sharing their dissatisfaction with hybe? Just bc bts build that whole company from the ground, doesn't mean they are involved with literally every decision made there.. or do you think all of the members wanted nfts too? Literally any fandom can complain about their faves' company (nct/exo/.. with sm, treasure/BP with yg), but oh no if army dare to share their complaints about hybe!!
I am not defending hybe, I am saying your claims are ridiculous. Of course you can complain about tons of merch, unpromoted hits, you can complain about content being shared only on weverse,that's understandable. But you acting like hybe will stop bts from dropping an album is hilarious. Especially when albums are ones of the biggest outcome too so one bts album will sell more than all of the albums of other hybe groups.
I am not telling you trust the company, I'm telling you to trust the boys. They keep praising their boss and talking about their creative freedom, about how they can release whatever they wish whenever they wish. If you still claim hybe holds them back then you're also calling bts liars too. Because unlike taylor and Kanye who openly express their discomfort with their labels, bts has never said anything bad about theirs
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fuck Hybe really
I read that this happened in 2020, so if it caused a problem for them, they wouldn't have been doing the things they are doing now unless BTS are just puppets who have no control over what they do and keep letting the company take advantages of them? If that is the case, then sorry for saying this but they can only blame themselves and i say this as a fan. If they do not want to do non-musical things, can they just tell the company so? They never trike me as people who would hold back from speaking for themselves. They don't need fans to fight for their rights, they have to fight for it themselves. So yeah, all of these complaints are useless if BTS let Hybe run over them anyway.
I am not defending hybe, I am saying your claims are ridiculous. Of course you can complain about tons of merch, unpromoted hits, you can complain about content being shared only on weverse,that's understandable. But you acting like hybe will stop bts from dropping an album is hilarious. Especially when albums are ones of the biggest outcome too so one bts album will sell more than all of the albums of other hybe groups.
I am not telling you trust the company, I'm telling you to trust the boys. They keep praising their boss and talking about their creative freedom, about how they can release whatever they wish whenever they wish. If you still claim hybe holds them back then you're also calling bts liars too. Because unlike taylor and Kanye who openly express their discomfort with their labels, bts has never said anything bad about theirs
Most people here dont believe hybe is completely prohibiting from releasing an album tho?? I & others say we dont know why they haven't released an album for 1.5y, which is true & that they are using this bts void to push their other groups on armys.
Its so crazy how with you guys its either one extreme or the others. Either they are puppets or they are solely running everything in that company... Its perfectly possible they are doing okay, but not agreeing with every single decision there??
I read that this happened in 2020, so if it caused a problem for them, they wouldn't have been doing the things they are doing now unless BTS are just puppets who have no control over what they do and keep letting the company take advantages of them? If that is the case, then sorry for saying this but they can only blame themselves and i say this as a fan. If they do not want to do non-musical things, can they just tell the company so? They never trike me as people who would hold back from speaking for themselves. They don't need fans to fight for their rights, they have to fight for it themselves. So yeah, all of these complaints are useless if BTS let Hybe run over them anyway.
Y'all are literally ready to throw the boys under the bus for a COMPANY??
you have literally zero idea how this industry & entertainment companies (certainly a kpop company) works.. if the boys came out next month/after their prime saying they didn't agree with certain decisions, you would actually blame them?? you are so vile for already planning to victim blame bts if they ever decide to say anything (even when nothing like that has happened yet). This is exactly what armys mean when they dat y'all are company stans rather than bts fans.
TOP, a member of one of the most iconic kpop groups ever & who are known in the kpop industry as being independent & doing what they want/being authentic, recently came out how hard it was working under yg and in kpop industry. Not even rational stans that dislike bb blamed him for speaking up about this now instead of doing something about it when it happened.. Kpop/entertainment industry isn't a pretty place, but good luck victim blaming every artist that comes out with accusations after their peak/carreer.
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