do you think any idols or companies are trying to sabotage another?

    for legal reasons this thread isn't that deep

    conspiracy theorists welcome just give a some explanation for your thinking please

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    probably nort... at worst i think they' lobby and ask their artists to be favored but not blatant sabotage. especially not from idols... or at least a large percentage of them.

    rather than sabotaging more like copying.

    Yg copies exo for treasure.

    Sm copies bp for aespa.

    Jyp copies aespa for nmixx.

    of course, this is how corporate works

    yes. check out some articles since it’s pretty easy to see there.


    What I see most is riding popularity of top groups like saying “the next blackpink or bts or exo” when they are not even 50% near that certain group. lol

    Hybe.. Sometimes I feel like they're mad that enhypen (a group created by half hybe, half CJ) is more successful than their pure blood (lol) group txt. Idk if I was them I would want my own group to be more successful than the group I share with someone else..

    SM.


    People always talk about SM paying for awards but I think they also pay award shows to forgo giving awards to groups that could pose a potential threat to any of their top groups. The award shows this year, especially the SMA. That shit was too damn obvious.

    isn't there the whole "SM buying possible competition & shelfing them" conspiracy ? them buying infinite when they were getting too big & (on purpose) not handling them well


    i've also heard from insiders that big companies are known to support projects against other groups, organised by their groups' fandoms. for example, exols' "break wings" project against bts. big chance some sm staff had a hand in the organisation bc that project was scarily well planned.

    Quote from Dried Beets & Lemon Turkey (503)

    Hybe.. Sometimes I feel like they're mad that enhypen (a group created by half hybe, half CJ) is more successful than their pure blood (lol) group txt. Idk if I was them I would want my own group to be more successful than the group I share with someone else..

    I don't think so if it was the case they would stop debuting groups with other companies and they would start debuting groups under big hit but they don't want to. Just look at their new ggs, none of them under big hit.

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    I don't think so if it was the case they would stop debuting groups with other companies and they would start debuting groups under big hit but they don't want to. Just look at their new ggs, none of them under big hit.

    The upcoming groups will be debuted under hybe. Hybe will own them and no other label will be in charge of them. Ador,source, they're all considered hybe so basically that's hybe's own labels which will produce hybe's own groups. Meanwhile belift is half hybe and half CJ.



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    HYBE doesn't have any say in Enhypen or their management. That's Belift's job. Belift is just shitty at management

    Hybe still owns half of belift..

    Quote from Dried Beets & Lemon Turkey (503)

    The upcoming groups will be debuted under hybe. Hybe will own them and no other label will be in charge of them. Ador,source, they're all considered hybe so basically that's hybe's own labels which will produce hybe's own groups. Meanwhile belift is half hybe and half CJ.



    Hybe still owns half of belift..

    I don't think hybe has 100% of source, correct me if I'm wrong

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    Hybe.. Sometimes I feel like they're mad that enhypen (a group created by half hybe, half CJ) is more successful than their pure blood (lol) group txt. Idk if I was them I would want my own group to be more successful than the group I share with someone else..

    I'd have two questions:

    What incidents make you think so?

    Why do you think hybe would sabotage a group they're getting money from instead of a group not under hybe at all?

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    I'd have two questions:

    What incidents make you think so?

    Why do you think hybe would sabotage a group they're getting money from instead of a group not under hybe at all?

    Incidents such as the way the company treats issues in comparison to their other artists, that how they don't acknowledge them when talking about hybe acts,that how they keep screwing up any opportunity to make enhypen go bigger by not promoting at all the songs which go viral etc

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    isn't there the whole "SM buying possible competition & shelfing them" conspiracy ? them buying infinite when they were getting too big & (on purpose) not handling them well


    i've also heard from insiders that big companies are known to support projects against other groups, organised by their groups' fandoms. for example, exols' "break wings" project against bts. big chance some sm staff had a hand in the organisation bc that project was scarily well planned.

    Sm?lol are u sure u're talking about sm and not hybe here?sm afaik never bought any company like hybe and rbw.

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    Incidents such as the way the company treats issues in comparison to their other artists, that how they don't acknowledge them when talking about hybe acts,that how they keep screwing up any opportunity to make enhypen go bigger by not promoting at all the songs which go viral etc

    Did you forget that they didn't inform anyone that Dimension: Answer is a repackaged album which affected its charting? It was probably done so they don't break their other group's records. Weird how all other Hybe albums have been counted correctly. Plus they still don't have an American label unlike +×+ who have it since debut.

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    Do you mean belift or the other labels under hybe? Belift is owned with 49% by hybe, the rest labels under them I don't know

    As far as I know hybe own 80% from source (gfriend company and sakura group) and 85% from pledis (seventeen company) which is a lot, they basically own those companies but they still have to share profits. They only own big hit and ador. I think they are trying to experiment without touching big hit brand like they prefer to debut their new gg (ador) under an independient label instead under big hit.

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