Controversial Opinion: NCT may be Popular, but their Music isn't

  • NCT fans love to brag about their monster sales, but don't you think it's odd that their streams don't reflect that at all?


    On Spotify, NCT 127 is below rookies like Enhypen and semi-inactive groups like EXO in streams . They seem to have the most fans overseas besides top groups like BTS and BlackPink, but their music is way below Twice, Red Velvet, TXT, Stray Kids, etc. in actual popularity.


    Something ain't adding up, because NCTzens claim to love their music, but the numbers say otherwise :/

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  • Maybe they just have the most lunatic fans buying up to 10 copies per album if not more

  • their music isn't me but they have visuals & talent

  • I don't feel the need to stream a song 15k times for example.

  • lol why people post these kind of things if they don't have the gut

    i am not nctzen and sm stan btw if u gonna pull that

    i think the streams split up to NCT127 and NCTdream

    for example lets say i listen music 30 minutes a day, if i was A group fan, i will spend the whole 30 mins for A group, but if i was nctzen i will spend the 15 mins for nct127 and other 15mins for nctdream, this result in low streams for each, simple

  • I feel their fandom genuinely likes their material, but If you follow NCT, you are already invested (or going to be) and follow for their music, their talents, their visuals, the amount of content they drop for fans etc, in other words, the whole package. They just don't spark interest in people to listen to them casually only for their music as much as the groups you mentioned above.


    So maybe you are right that they are not that popular outside their fans for the music, but I wouldn't say their fans don't like it.

  • I don't feel the need to stream a song 15k times for example.

    Nice try, but it still doesn't add up. Most kpop stans aren't out here looping their faves' music every day for a whole year, but they still get good streams on Spotify.


    IU and Red Velvet probably have less overseas fans than NCT but their music gets more spins. Enhypen has a tiny discography but they're getting better spins.


    You're telling me NCT can post huge numbers for album sales but they can't get more listens than a rookie group? Nauuur. Just admit than no one wanna get a headache listening to smth like Sticker

  • Nice try, but it still doesn't add up. Most kpop stans aren't out here looping their faves' music every day for a whole year, but they still get good streams on Spotify.


    IU and Red Velvet probably have less overseas fans than NCT but their music gets more spins. Enhypen has a tiny discography but they're getting better spins.


    You're telling me NCT can post huge numbers for album sales but they can't get more listens than a rookie group? Nauuur. Just admit than no one wanna get a headache listening to smth like Sticker

    So you made this thread solely to drag their music like 90% of this forum? Nice try! ^^


    Their spotify streams and numbers are improving. Don't worry about them too much.


    And I actually love Sticker by the way! The song and the album. <3

  • Nice try, but it still doesn't add up. Most kpop stans aren't out here looping their faves' music every day for a whole year, but they still get good streams on Spotify.


    IU and Red Velvet probably have less overseas fans than NCT but their music gets more spins. Enhypen has a tiny discography but they're getting better spins.


    You're telling me NCT can post huge numbers for album sales but they can't get more listens than a rookie group? Nauuur. Just admit than no one wanna get a headache listening to smth like Sticker

    the streams are split between nct dream and nct127

  • Nice try, but it still doesn't add up. Most kpop stans aren't out here looping their faves' music every day for a whole year, but they still get good streams on Spotify.


    IU and Red Velvet probably have less overseas fans than NCT but their music gets more spins. Enhypen has a tiny discography but they're getting better spins.


    You're telling me NCT can post huge numbers for album sales but they can't get more listens than a rookie group? Nauuur. Just admit than no one wanna get a headache listening to smth like Sticker

    You're failing to add up the fact that their sales are inflated from people buying more then one copy. This would explain why their streams don't add up to their sales amount, doesn't mean that their fans dislike their music just that their sales don't represent the amount of fans.

  • Controversial xenophobic opinion the reason why some kpop groups are not popular in the west is because the members or concepts come off as FOBby. Sophisticated city Asian is accepted but FOB is not.

  • OP should stream some NCT since they're obsessed with them. :pepepizza:

  • Wouldn't that be the case for their album sales? But the units both sell huge numbers on their own. The math still ain't mathing.

    time is finite, money is infinite

  • Op: controversial opinion

    Also op: /proceeds to repeat the same things they and other obsessed losers have been saying since NCT started selling too well for their liking.



    Mind your own business and let nctzens worry about whether they like NCT's music or not. I fail to see how the frequency with which we stream NCT's music affect your life in any way.

  • Controversial xenophobic opinion the reason why some kpop groups are not popular in the west is because the members or concepts come off as FOBby. Sophisticated city Asian is accepted but FOB is not.

    FIB is fresh off the boat? Correct me if I'm wrong

  • Their streams split up to 3 subunits tho? Lol anyways they still make better music than the whole industry.

  • i don't use spotify, so when i want to listen to their music i go straight to youtube and watch their performances from music shows and other gigs alike.

  • Some are just visual stans hence some stole only photocards.

  • I never thought I’d see the day where NCTzens’ laziness on streaming platforms would continue to be used as evidence of a global conspiracy.


    It’s been a running punchline for many years that they will buy albums, show up to concerts but not be bothered with music show wins and mass streaming on any platform. The fact they could be organized enough to get 9 music show wins is insane.


    They are are not going to stream 1,000 times to hit streaming targets. More power to fandoms that do, but they’re not one of them and never will be.


    Plus many NCTzens are multis, so their streams are spread across other types of groups. I see these fandoms where it seems like it’s a badge of pride to say “I only listen to music from this group,” which may help with their streaming totals because the fandom is laser focused, but in my experience, most NCTzens are open that they listen to all kind of things. (Or more simply, NCT is one of many different things they may be listening to in a day or week or month.)


    I don’t understand why people are so bothered by how much NCTzens do or don’t stream?

  • Who said anything about mass streaming? If you think the majority of international kpop stans are mass streaming on Spotify every day of the week, you're wrong srry to say. As a Reveluv, I know my fandom does not lose sleep over their numbers on Spotify. We just organically listen to their music bc we like it.


    Just saying, Aespa already has more monthly listeners than NCT 127 despite the fact that they have like 3 songs and a very small overseas fandom.


    As we can see NCTzens have no issue mass buying albums or attending stages. But for some reason, they struggle to actually listen to the music on any streaming platform............ If only we could figure out a reason...........

  • well antis plz check out nct latests works pretty pleaze


    and help us nctzenx stream


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  • Their music suck arse except maybe Dream. They have some decent tracks.


    Huge sales but low streams just show a lot of their fans are visual stans. This isn’t a drag but it makes the most sense. Gotta grab all those photo cards with the numerous versions

  • Their music suck arse except maybe Dream. They have some decent tracks.


    Huge sales but low streams just show a lot of their fans are visual stans. This isn’t a drag but it makes the most sense. Gotta grab all those photo cards with the numerous versions

    You wish this were the case.

    Imagine calling one of the only active boy groups with a top tier vocal line - only a bunch of visuals.. lol

    Nope - they have TALENT and excellent music.

    You all spend so much time talking about NCT on anon that they must be doing something right.

  • You wish this were the case.

    Imagine calling one of the only active boy groups with a top tier vocal line - only a bunch of visuals.. lol

    Nope - they have TALENT and excellent music.

    You all spend so much time talking about NCT on anon that they must be doing something right.

    exactly, they should focus on their faves more. Unless their faves are as boring as their obsession with NCT suggests.

  • Who said anything about mass streaming? If you think the majority of international kpop stans are mass streaming on Spotify every day of the week, you're wrong srry to say. As a Reveluv, I know my fandom does not lose sleep over their numbers on Spotify. We just organically listen to their music bc we like it.


    Just saying, Aespa already has more monthly listeners than NCT 127 despite the fact that they have like 3 songs and a very small overseas fandom.


    As we can see NCTzens have no issue mass buying albums or attending stages. But for some reason, they struggle to actually listen to the music on any streaming platform............ If only we could figure out a reason...........

    But apparently you lose sleep over how much NCTzens are streaming.


    2x


    The fact that you know the numbers of NCT AND RV AND aespa shows you’re paying waaay more attention than us NCTzens are.


    I have no idea what the actual streams are other than that antis like to drag us for it.


    I just listen to the music.


    :nct1:


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  • i listen to their music in spotify. maybe some people just other platforms like melon or apple music to stream

  • It is just music dont make everything a competition.. dont pollute your brain with stuff like this, it is not that deep. Some people enjoy their songs some not, it is normal that’s why there is that thing call “genre” it’s for people to pick what’s better for their taste :pepefacepalm:

  • Their music is more interesting (127 and wayv) than whatever other groups are doing and I'm not a fan

  • They are not popular either, at least not outside of hardcore k-pop stans and their fandom. Album sales are heavily inflated (like most of k-pop) but nct stans do it on another level. It helps they have most fans come from china & korea who bulk buy alot.


    That explains why their numbers are pathetic on spotify, youtube, etc. Their strong markets don't use them

  • They are not popular either, at least not outside of hardcore k-pop stans and their fandom. Album sales are heavily inflated (like most of k-pop) but nct stans do it on another level. It helps they have most fans come from china & korea who bulk buy alot.


    That explains why their numbers are pathetic on spotify, youtube, etc. Their strong markets don't use them

    What is more pathetic ? Spotify low streams vs users still commenting in threads made last year about a group they claim they don't follow but know everything about them, from monthly listerners to daily views? Obsessed behavior


    And YouTube korea is very popular fyi

  • The level of energy and attention y'all put into trying to discredit NCT tells me they are doing something right otherwise you wouldn't feel so threatened.....

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