which flop is more unexpected : BOY vs BLACK MAMBA

Aespa didn't really flop, so that aside...

YG's groups have always done well from the get go. Always. Big Bang sold 150K albums and reached #3, a crazy strong debut in freaking 2006, before kpop had a strong international following. 2NE1's Fire almost won a music show trophy right off the bat (basically unheard of in 2009). Winner's Empty and iKon's My Type both hit #1 on the charts and had more than 1.5 million DLs. Blackpink's double debut songs both did incredibly well internationally (Boombayah hitting #1 on Billboard and Whistle hitting #1 in Korea). AkMu's 200% topped all the Korean charts.

The weakest debut of all of them is Big Bang whose We Belong Together "only" got to #5 on the charts.

So the fact that Treasure came from a company with that strong a track history and their debut song couldn't even break the top 100 on Korean charts was hugely surprising.

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So the fact that Treasure came from a company with that strong a track history and their debut song couldn't even break the top 100 on Korean charts was hugely surprising.

Well knetzs hate yg but they sold a million copies overall which kinda balanced their poor performance on the charts

Boy for me even although I like the song

Bou probably because almost everyone was expected an experimental song for Black Mamba and all the YG groups did well digitally with their debut.

I chose Boy because well Black Mamba wasn’t a flop BUT even if it was I’ll say Boy because SM isn’t known to have strong debut songs for their girl groups (those songs tend to have a cult following after the group hits big like ITNW and Happiness) whereas YG is known to have strong debuts! Whistle, Fire, etc.

Comparing BOY to Black Mamba....yikes.

One doesn't even have digital points.