Where are Lisa Flowers ????

Quote from SooYoung

and don't people come at me with the " yes but her boyfriend..."

she's a woman and yes she's in a supposedly relationship with a problematic man but the opinion of her boyfriend aren't necessarily her opinion

and people really need to stop acting like because she's in a relationship, she's not a full fledged individual who can't think by herself

But this is exactly why people are still weary. She can think for herself and she willingly chooses to associate herself with an infamously zionist billionaire family. Even if she doesn't agree with them, obviously she is willing to give such things a pass for her own benefit...

Quote from kahei

But this is exactly why people are still weary. She can think for herself and she willingly chooses to associate herself with an infamously zionist billionaire family. Even if she doesn't agree with them, obviously she is willing to give such things a pass for her own benefit...

That’s just another way to blame a woman for the things men do.

The truth is in day to day conversation or life no one is discussing world politics if it doesn’t directly affect them. This notion that not only should you be virtuous but everyone you associate with should also be equally virtuous is extremely silly.

I think it's a very tough conversation to be had. Lisa is one of the nicest idols, but being associated with that family raises a lot of eyebrows. Lisa's heart is in the right place because she's very generous and she has done many charitable things. However, in the eyes of many it doesn't wash away who she chose to be associated with. I don't think she shares the same political stances as her boyfriend, but it's hard to look away due to LVMH donation to Israel.

So, I can see why people aren't willing to give flowers for this donation even though heart is in the right place. Personally, I think it's a very nice thing to do, but the elephant will always be in the room if she's associated with that family. Also, I can look past who she's dating because she's her own person and I feel Israel/Palestine conversation is always tough to be had because many rich people donate toward Israel.

I'll always laugh at kpop fans blaming Lisa for who she is associated with when idols are associated with CEOs, directors, producers, close friends, etc etc etc who are openly as bad as her boyfriend's actions.

Never once Lisa did something to hurt others and she always actively help people. She is a great individual and her work is admirable.

Quote from ISaidISaid

That’s just another way to blame a woman for the things men do.

The truth is in day to day conversation or life no one is discussing world politics if it doesn’t directly affect them. This notion that not only should you be virtuous but everyone you associate with should also be equally virtuous is extremely silly.

Yeah, when we're talking about average people or even your average celebrity, sure. Not literal billionaires donating to Israel, lol.

interesting