Is Dear Alice going to fail or succeed?

  • I saw a recent performance video of Dear Alice from Mnet K-pop released today.


    They look to me like a One direction western boyband doing Kpop in english. 5 members all from UK, 4 white and 1 looks South Asian/White mix like Zain Malik).


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  • With a name like Dear Alice, I took it as a GG for a sec there.


    I think they might have a similar handicap to blackswan, if they are in it to stay in Kpop.

    watching the video, I think they might be ok because they clearly have skill, but for some fans, not being EA or SEA would be a little bit of an obstacle to being a fan. (my personal theory is not because of their race, but because of their use of "kpop" on an english language song with members that wouldn't really pass as ethically Korean. )


    Edit: I made a grave mistake in writing this post. I didn't realize that they were debuting in UK, instead of korea, due to the subforum it was posted in. Consider my post mistaken and it's authority as a representation of my opinion void.

  • I prefer this song to the other one which put me off them :!: I hope they succeed I saw their documentary and they worked really hard but I can’t help but feel they’ll go unnoticed :/


    K-pop companies need to stop making western groups with the kpop standard. I don’t think it will ever work!


    In short anything’s possible but i highly doubt they’ll become the next one direction or bts :oops:

  • They are an SM group tho?

    Besides a large budget I'm unsure what this means.

    They are UK boy group so they should succeed in their home country first

    I didn't actually know that. I might have judged them quite harshly and unfairly in that regard. I'm quite unfamiliar with UK pop so I'm going to have to defer my opinion indefinitely in that regard.

  • With a name like Dear Alice, I took it as a GG for a sec there.


    I think they might have a similar handicap to blackswan, if they are in it to stay in Kpop.

    watching the video, I think they might be ok because they clearly have skill, but for some fans, not being EA or SEA would be a little bit of an obstacle to being a fan. (my personal theory is not because of their race, but because of their use of "kpop" on an english language song with members that wouldn't really pass as ethically Korean. )


    Edit: I made a grave mistake in writing this post. I didn't realize that they were debuting in UK, instead of korea, due to the subforum it was posted in. Consider my post mistaken and it's authority as a representation of my opinion void.


    I personally think it's a bad idea to promote in Korea. It also send the perception that boybands formed in the west are no longer useful so they need SMtown to give them a image boost.


    Well there are even now South Asians in Kpop ( of them Indian blackswan, XIN, Katseye). What about Central Asians? They look quite East Asian too except they supposedly descendant of Mongols Mongol Empire, Turkic people and white Iranians people but look more like East Asian than SEA (except for Chinese people in SEA)

  • Well there are even now South Asians in Kpop ( of them Indian blackswan, XIN, Katseye). What about Central Asians? They look quite East Asian too except they supposedly descendant of Mongols Mongol Empire, Turkic people and white Iranians people but look more like East Asian than SEA (except for Chinese people in SEA)

    There are a lot of ethnic Koreans in Central Asia and they might return to Korea and become an idol, but half of Central Asians don’t look like East Asian.

    Also most certainly Central Asian people will not become a kpop idol because of the religion.

  • There are a lot of ethnic Koreans in Central Asia and they might return to Korea and become an idol, but half of Central Asians don’t look like East Asian.

    Also most certainly Central Asian people will not become a kpop idol because of the religion.


    Yes, your right people like Tajiks look nothing like East Asians


    The Kazakhs, Kyrgyzs they look very east Asian generally and so do Uzbek people and Turkmens but they look more mixed.


    When I say they look East Asian.

    Like the biggest Central Asian pop group look like this


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  • They might succeed British groups tend to last long it seems


    You know, there is currently not even one decent british group we can name. I tried looking around and the boyband thing is basically dead. I had not seen any other British boyband group, there are tiktok boyband from UK but have very low views in their youtube music videos.

  • You know, there is currently not even one decent british group we can name. I tried looking around and the boyband thing is basically dead. I had not seen any other British boyband group, there are tiktok boyband from UK but have very low views in their youtube music videos.

    The only british group I can name is Flo and they are a girl group. SM is not promoting them well at all

  • their songs just do not work so far. They need a better mixing engineer and better writers, then maybe they will have more of a chance.

    Real, tbh.


    Like, where is AESPA's producer? If they can afford the person who produced ARMAGEDDON or WHIPLASH, even, then Dear Alice might have a chance.


    Now I'm actually starting to see why a handful of SM boy groups aren't in the spotlight anymore. SM just doesn't do them any justice.

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