Has Le sserafim/Gidle taken Blackpink place as the feminist girl group?

  • Sure they do... we love policing women on their tone :lisa7:

    Not policing anyone, just telling it like it is. Their "tone" is conceit personified, which is why they turn so many people off. YG decided to take that tiresome "I'm better than you and this is why" schtick that's so pervasive in hip-hop and stuck it onto a Kpop group. It's all they do at this point, and it's very bleh.

  • I agree that Blackpink aren't really a feminist group. However, it has rubbed me the wrong way that some people seem to think their songs put down other women. Other than one line in Typa Girl which was a poor choice of whoever wrote that, their other songs aren't putting down other women, rather lifting up themselves.


    If you look at any of their "braggy" songs, which are Boombayah, D4, HYLT, Pretty Savage, Pink Venom, and Shut Down (6 out of 31 original songs - they're some of the most popular songs of their catalog which makes people think their entire discography is this way when it's evidently not), most of them are lifting themselves up or responding to haters/people who want to see them fall. And this is all perfectly ok, especially because their fans derive empowerment from it, even if they don't have feminist messages.


    Now I'm sure people will pick out two to three lines and scream them as offensive/putting others down, but again, they're lifting themselves up and putting those who don't like them down based on the lyrics - and if this is not to someone's liking, fine. But it's not as problematic as the video is trying to make it seem.

  • I agree that Blackpink aren't really a feminist group. However, it has rubbed me the wrong way that some people seem to think their songs put down other women. Other than one line in Typa Girl which was a poor choice of whoever wrote that, their other songs aren't putting down other women, rather lifting up themselves.


    If you look at any of their "braggy" songs, which are Boombayah, D4, HYLT, Pretty Savage, Pink Venom, and Shut Down (6 out of 31 original songs - they're some of the most popular songs of their catalog which makes people think their entire discography is this way when it's evidently not), most of them are lifting themselves up or responding to haters/people who want to see them fall. And this is all perfectly ok, especially because their fans derive empowerment from it, even if they don't have feminist messages.


    Now I'm sure people will pick out two to three lines and scream them as offensive/putting others down, but again, they're lifting themselves up and putting those who don't like them down based on the lyrics - and if this is not to someone's liking, fine. But it's not as problematic as the video is trying to make it seem.

    I think only pretty savage and shut down are the only songs truly about bragging the other ones not necessary some line here and there.. it's funny because before born pink people were saying that blackpink only sings songs about love or being heartboken now that they had more empowering songs there is a problem and it's not like kpop needs to be super deep either.

  • Sure they do... we love policing women on their tone :lisa7:

    It's not about policing. It's telling the truth. They sing songs made by a man whose sole purpose is to make money and enrich a company owned by men, BPink get a piece of the pie as well. In the end all of them are slaves to money, they worship luxury, they glorify wealth. And money is controlled by men. Unless they make self-composed songs about bringing down the patriarchy I would consider them the opposite of feminists.

  • I hate myself for watching this video. It's an army projecting her one-sided beef with Blinks onto Blackpink, taking lyrics out of context and trying to slyly say The Pinks are responsible for their fans behavior.


    There's a lot I want to say about this, especially considering it's coming from the so-called "anti-bullying, mental health" fandom but I won't.

    It's not about policing. It's telling the truth. They sing songs made by a man whose sole purpose is to make money and enrich a company owned by men, BPink get a piece of the pie as well. In the end all of them are slaves to money, they worship luxury, they glorify wealth. And money is controlled by men. Unless they make self-composed songs about bringing down the patriarchy I would consider them the opposite of feminists.

    Yes because when I wanna hear about feminism, I wanna hear from Teshubs

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