Only gidle is the girl group with real long term organic growth and success in entire kpop

  • Everyone else who's successful either got big4 privilege or produce privilege or are 1 hit wonder who fell of fast


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  • I've been a Neverland from their debut, but I find this viewpoint kind of disrespectful, honestly. There have been plenty of groups outside of (G)I-DLE and the big four companies who have had organic growth and success, both in the past and from now on. Have they become as big as (G)I-DLE? No, but that doesn't discount their efforts and their success and their lasting effect on Kpop.

  • TWICE's Organic Growth


    During their Debut Era... (From Oct 20th 2015)

    - Had Fan Signings that lasted 2 hours+

    - Had Mini Fan Meets outside of Music Shows

    - Members created their own Surprise School Visits

    - Interacted with Fans in Real Time with V-Live

    - Members created their own Real Time Events on V-Live with Cosplay

    - Cheerleading Cosplay probably led to them being used for Like Ooh Ahh as they first appeared in Performances after it (Cheerleader Remix)

    and so on..


    TWICE's Like Ooh Ahh would debut at 22nd on the Circle Charts to a high of 10th in it's 14th Week.


    TWICE did have Privilege of being from JYPE but it didn't amount to much at the time, the same could be said for NMIXX that has performed even worse on the Digital Charts but in NMIXX's case, they are enjoying the benefits of debuting in the 4th Gen after BTS, BP and TWICE(Japan) made Kpop globally relevant.

    Rather, I consider Organic Fan Growth as Growth that has occurred due to an Artist or Groups' own Effort to connect with Fans that is in Real Time.


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    TWICE Mini Fan Meeting 7 years and 2 days later for Set Me Free 19th March 2023

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