Display Morefootball fans can be the scum of the earth if they care too much about the pro scene
i love playing football but never interact with football fans outside the field because of that
but my relationship with kpop fans hasnt been much better
they're not scummy but a very very high percentage of them are toxic and hateful in a different way and equally hard to be around
and i listen to kpop everyday so its not like i hate kpop
comparatively, chill and fun gamers are much easier to find
they probably arent going around labelling themselves as gamers though
Now that you write like this, I can sympathize.
If you start a conversation with "lol pls stop deluding yourself", you don't really start off on the right foot to have a nice exchange of ideas/viewpoints.
Well, I think you can find the equivalent amongst Kpop listeners. I know plenty of people who listen to Kpop, can maybe name about 10 idols, but that's about it. They wouldn't call themselves Kpop fans, just like the people you mentioned wouldn't call themselves gamers.
I used to play football, but am not really good at it, so I hope you do better than me 
