In comparing Twice and Izone choreography, why does Twice dance formation feels more crowded/cramped even though Izone has more members?

Most of IZ*One's choreography designed by Chae Dasom and I remember Choi Yongjun (A dance trainer in Produce) praised her as "formation genius". Indeed, the 2 belonged to the same dance crew (Freemind) with Choi Yongjun as the leader. Choi Yongjun choreographed most of WJSN's songs and that group too had outstanding dance formation. I guess it's the forte and focus of this crew.

Also, I remember reading that Twice's later choreographies were designed by 2-3 different persons independently. JYP would submitted the song to different choreographers, often times foreigners, and JYP's in-house choreograhers would pick nice moves from each piece and knit them into one. So, Twice's dance piece may be designed without a big overall concept but a collage of pretty details. This can be why the formation is not as intricate. Also, foreign choreographers can be not as familiar with/expertised in complicated formation as Korean ones.

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I would say it’s the other way around. IZONE choreography is messy and their synchronization are not as perfect as TWICE or other girl groups.

Salty much? Even brought up an imaginative unrelated info to put down another group. The original discussion was on the formation design and not the execution.

Now that I look at it, yeah I noticed it now. They make use of the stage very well

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I would say it’s the other way around. IZONE choreography is messy and their synchronization are not as perfect as TWICE or other girl groups.

Why I’m not fond of their stages.

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Izone is most synchro gg now

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I would say it’s the other way around. IZONE choreography is messy and their synchronization are not as perfect as TWICE or other girl groups.

Why I’m not fond of their stages.

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This is so incorrect, IZ*ONE are the most synchronised girl group currently.

Also their choreography just make better use of the members with their beautiful formations.

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This is so incorrect, IZ*ONE are the most synchronised girl group currently.

Also their choreography just make better use of the members with their beautiful formations.

However

1) synchronicity is not permanent and depends mostly on the amount of time invested to the practice of each song.

2) As sited by the one running the analysis himself, the analysis might be incorrect and, if the choreography was designed in the way that different members doing different moves at a time, the software might interpret that as asynchronism.

IZ*ONE's choreography is more focused on creating imagery since it is easier with bigger groups. This is why I really like a lot of their dances as they are very aesthetically pleasing to the eyes.

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However

1) synchronicity is not permanent and depends mostly on the amount of time invested to the practice of each song.

2) As sited by the one running the analysis himself, the analysis might be incorrect and, if the choreography was designed in the way that different members doing different moves at a time, the software might interpret that as asynchronism.

I understand both those points. They remain an especially in-sync group.

I like I*zone choreography but Twice is far more synchronized and pleasing to watch. Also in Twice choreography you never see members walking to the back during the dance and every Iz*one choreography has it? That kinda annoys me. I love the SSOTS dance choreography though.

twice does alot of striaght lines if that makes since. And when they make formations thwy cluster together to make the picture

I don't agree that twice is crowded

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I don't agree that twice is crowded

I didnt say crowded. I say cluster.

The y gather in a cluster they dont look bunched up but its close with more outward lines whike izone iuses wider formations/shapes

My own observation is that iz*one choreos usually have many parts where members would standby on the side. Since they have a lot of members, there are many sections that dont need that many members to do it so they like exit from the frame then enter again once they have a role again. Twice does that too but less frequently. Their choreographies usually try to utilize them all.

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Lmao im such a clown. I didnt read your post first. I just said what you have already said