So After Like failed to take off internationally. Surprised?

Its first day Spotify numbers show it could grow to be a Ddu ddu kind of hit but it never took off. Why isn’t America/global listeners vibing with it?

Sticking in d4 for no reason. Lol don’t try to set us blinks up

This song seems like It will age badly

No. Ifans have weird taste on what songs they stream in terms of it being more fickle than the Korean GP.

Its hardly an international failure troll harder

allkpop forum really overestimates international popularity

Finally IVE reached this state in anon.

As a casual listener of kpop in akp, I didn't like it on first listen. Lack of english in verses and retro is overdone it was boring.

Kpopies don't have an actual sense when it comes to music, they think cutesy and tacky sounds like 70s are top art and what people like, when its the opposite, the darker and most urban sound you have the more people will like it

Because they sampled one of the most well-known American songs and didn't do it well.

This is, by far, their worst release.

the standard of ww success in kpop is very low

barely hanging off from top 50 or 100 is considered huge ww smash but in reality that's very low compared to an Asian artist like joji

I'd say only BTS and BP were the closes to that but they still never can get a huge iconic appeal and are mainly fandom driven

kpop stans should stay in a certain lane talking about international success

It's not a good song. An IVE song cannot chart well internationally because of Wonyoung's cute face.

and is still doing better than most 4th gens

Doesn't matter, it's the highest peak for a 4th gen group and they did that without payola and company stans so that's a win. Imagine what can they achieve next.

but IVE just needs to be ngg which it appears to be now...changing of the guard?

ivewin.jpegAll they need to do is become ngg , which it appears to be so....changing of the guard as we speak?

They just need to be the ngg and it appears to be in the making. They just beat Twice on KBS.

IVE is the most overrated group I’ve ever seen.

Not at all. They sampled on an iconic song and didn't do anything memorable, catchy or interesting with it. Their other songs have catchier hooks.

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IVE is the most overrated group I’ve ever seen.

for real

I can't wait for their bubble to pop, I mean what do they do successfully, anyway? weak dancers, weak vocals, boring on shows, they're legit just pretty

in some ways the perfect public face of Kpop haha. Can't pretend anyone actually cares about talent here when that's your biggest new group. I mean imagine them performing at the VMAs next to charismatic Western performers instead of BP...I'd be so embarrassed to watch