What does Ive/NewJeans have that others don’t have?

Ive/NewJeans don’t even take a year to start stomping on every one in their way, girls and boys. But what do they have that allow them to eat others up so effortlessly?

- music

- visuals

- appealing / not weird concepts

- privilege

Jang Wonyoung and Hybe. And simple music that anyone can get into for a few months until they get bored and forget it exists.

the first 2 are having good songs, along with the natural growth of kpop

1 year ago girlgroups werent even close to hitting 1 million sales, 6 million listeners, now there are several.

Newjeans have HYBE.

IVE have IZ*One legacy with Wonyoung and Yujin.

Both groups have catchy songs.

IVE is pure organic while NJ is not

To those who said ive has wonyoung and yujin did not realize that eleven did not make it into top 100 on the first day. People pay attention to them because of their good song, not because of izone girls. New jeans get the bighit stans supporting them + their concept is refreshing.

*footnote it is embarrassing for aespa to get stomped by rookies like that. Next level is the biggest 4th gen? Sure jan

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eat others up so effortlessly

Effortlessly?

Sorry but you make me mad. IVE is not effortlessly eating the others since SSE literally sent WY and Yujin to Produce48, in hope gathering some fandom. Working hard for another 2 years in Izone, building their fandom, their skills, and their popularity.

See that the two of them becomes the MC of Inkigayo and Music Bank?

Both of them had the potential, and SSE pushing them hard.

SSE also pouring their main budget for this group investment, hiring quality music producer, writers, choreographer, promotion stuff, etc.

No, it wasn't an effortless endeavor.

NJ gets Spotify bost after adding TTH.

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IVE is pure organic while NJ is not

nice joke

token success stans, the worst breed of fans ever.

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To those who said ive has wonyoung and yujin did not realize that eleven did not make it into top 100 on the first day. People pay attention to them because of their good song, not because of izone girls. New jeans get the bighit stans supporting them + their concept is refreshing.

*footnote it is embarrassing for aespa to get stomped by rookies like that. Next level is the biggest 4th gen? Sure jan

What's with the constant obsession and singling out of Aespa?

BP and TWICE are also getting stomped by rookies, and more. Does this mean it's embarassing for BP and TWICE too, as current and past top groups?

And if we're talking songs and song charting, then (G)I-dle is stomping everyone with Tomboy this year, 3rd gen and 4th gen alike.

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IVE is pure organic while NJ is not

Yes, of course, Ive is the most organic ever.

Ive is the bestest of the best!

It will beat Bp one day, mark my word

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nice joke

how that is a joke look at the statistics of their growth after adding in the playlist.

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IVE is pure organic while NJ is not

I would like to know how NJ would do on spotify if they weren't added to TTH playlist by Hybe.

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I would like to know how NJ would do on spotify if they weren't added to TTH playlist by Hybe.

they were already hitting more than 1M+ streams /day before being added to playlists. their songs have organic growth

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how that is a joke look at the statistics of their growth after adding in the playlist.

what's your statistics? can you show me? NJs have been consistent since release, before the playlisting. their streams are growing organically over time. Meanwhile IVE have been added to playlists since day 1.

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they were already hitting more than 1M+ streams /day before being added to playlists. their songs have organic growth

No it doesn't everyone knows their songs got a boost after being added to a playlist that have over 30 million followers.

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No it doesn't everyone knows their songs got a boost after being added to a playlist that have over 30 million followers.

This is the spotify stats over time for Attention:

08/01: +669,469 plays (16 hours)

08/02: +887,898 plays

08/03: +820,432 plays

08/04: +777,067 plays

08/05: +783,416 plays

08/06: +753,881 plays

08/07: +761,000 plays

08/08: +843,222 plays

08/09: +840,382 plays

08/10: +853,971 plays

08/11: #176. “Attention” (new) — +881,804 plays

08/12: #177. “Attention” (-1) — +905,162 plays

08/13: #179. “Attention” (-2) — +887,759 plays

08/14: #149. “Attention” (+30) — +871,497 plays

08/15: #126. “Attention” (+23) — +957,169 plays

08/16: #126. “Attention” (=) — +992,624 plays

08/17: #116. “Attention” (+10) — +1,036,372 plays

08/18: #123. “Attention” (-7) — +1,019,891 plays

08/19: #121. “Attention” (+2) — +1,064,321 plays

08/20: #128. “Attention” (-7) — +1,016,064 plays

08/21: #110. “Attention” (+18) — +984,052 plays

08/22: #110. “Attention” (=) — +1,049,001 plays

08/24: #105. “Attention” (+6) — +1,112,053 plays

08/23: #111. “Attention” (-1) — +1,072,931 plays
08/25: #112. “Attention” (=) — +1,123,488 plays

After this, it was added to TTH, the streams after:

08/26: #101. “Attention” (+4) — +1,231,518 plays

08/27: #97. “Attention” (+4) — +1,197,545 plays

08/28: #82. “Attention” (+15) — +1,169,910 plays

08/29: #78. “Attention” (+4) — +1,273,587 plays

08/30: #83. “Attention” (-5) — +1,271,854 plays

So you can see their streams have always been consistently growing and hitting new peaks with or without playlists. If this isn't organic growth, I don't know what is.

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This is the spotify stats over time for Attention:

08/01: +669,469 plays (16 hours)

08/02: +887,898 plays

08/03: +820,432 plays

08/04: +777,067 plays

08/05: +783,416 plays

08/06: +753,881 plays

08/07: +761,000 plays

08/08: +843,222 plays

08/09: +840,382 plays

08/10: +853,971 plays

08/11: #176. “Attention” (new) — +881,804 plays

08/12: #177. “Attention” (-1) — +905,162 plays

08/13: #179. “Attention” (-2) — +887,759 plays

08/14: #149. “Attention” (+30) — +871,497 plays

08/15: #126. “Attention” (+23) — +957,169 plays

08/16: #126. “Attention” (=) — +992,624 plays

08/17: #116. “Attention” (+10) — +1,036,372 plays

08/18: #123. “Attention” (-7) — +1,019,891 plays

08/19: #121. “Attention” (+2) — +1,064,321 plays

08/20: #128. “Attention” (-7) — +1,016,064 plays

08/21: #110. “Attention” (+18) — +984,052 plays

08/22: #110. “Attention” (=) — +1,049,001 plays

08/24: #105. “Attention” (+6) — +1,112,053 plays

08/23: #111. “Attention” (-1) — +1,072,931 plays
08/25: #112. “Attention” (=) — +1,123,488 plays

After this, it was added to TTH, the streams after:

08/26: #101. “Attention” (+4) — +1,231,518 plays

08/27: #97. “Attention” (+4) — +1,197,545 plays

08/28: #82. “Attention” (+15) — +1,169,910 plays

08/29: #78. “Attention” (+4) — +1,273,587 plays

08/30: #83. “Attention” (-5) — +1,271,854 plays

So you can see their streams have always been consistently growing and hitting new peaks with or without playlists. If this isn't organic growth, I don't know what is.

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Yeah the boost was obvious thank you for showing us. They needed TTH playlist to start making numbers that can compete with IVE's.