IVE are still the 4th generation leaders

    although ppl still downplay them, They have the best charting 4th gen song of the year still and they’re coming back next week. There’s no other song that got a PAK or outcharted Love Dive yet, so why are ppl still ignoring IVE?

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    Agree. People that deny it are delusional and big4 supremacists and company stans

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    no one gives ive enough credit for surpassing everyone so early and getring the IT girl with a small company.

    Exactly. They did everything a monster rookie could do and more, if they were from big4 there would be zero doubt that they are the 4th gen leaders.

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    although ppl still downplay them, They have the best charting 4th gen song of the year still and they’re coming back next week. There’s no other song that got a PAK or outcharted Love Dive yet, so why are ppl still ignoring IVE?

    Tomboy got a PAK and Love Dive didn’t though. And I won’t count out Attention’s longevity so soon.

    No one downlays especially in the main.


    All I see are praises for I've and will win best rookies

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    Tomboy got a PAK and Love Dive didn’t though. And I won’t count out Attention’s longevity so soon.

    Love Dive had bigger longevity and is THE BIGGEST 4th gen song internationally by miles, with Eleven as 3rd (2nd is Maniac by SKZ). After 4 months it still is on top10 with no signs of leaving. It is also the best selling gg single only behind BP. Try again.

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    Tomboy got a PAK and Love Dive didn’t though. And I won’t count out Attention’s longevity so soon.

    I don't say they are leaders but PAK is not the measurement of a good song and you need to consider they come back the same month as BB and PSY Ft bts . when they start to get RAL fomis9 start manipulate BUGS

    ive cameback competing agains tomboy, big bang, that that, and all these other comebacks that charted in bugs easily

    lsf,enhypen,formis 9, minhyuk ytc etc list goes on? ( this was also the month where enhypen and fromis9 fans abused the fuck out bugs loophole of mass stream downloads by using fake accounts)


    who did newjeans comeback too? 2 month old wsg? 4 month old love dive? 4 month old psy 5 month old tomboy? 3 month old lsf? aesflop?


    love dive gained more points in the first 3 weeks being 2nd and 3rd rank then NJ was being #1 because of people ahead of love dive. tomboy and psy yet they still accumulated more points

    who was their competition honestly?

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