Does a shorter training period equal natural talent?
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depends on situation
for example one could be trainee in Agency X but joined trainee line up few months after debut of new group
this way trainee stays there, and stays, waiting for chance, and in many cases later on just gaves up and moves on his/her own to different agency or is told by staff that after those 5-6 years they plan to debut "younger" group but PD/CEO of agency Y asked if Agency X has some free trainees or some talent they can recommend, and that's it...
also there are cases like Olivia Hye who was trainee just for a "day" lol
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there are a lot of politics within kpop companies that we will never be privy to. but often times, kpop companies take on trainees even if they aren't planning to debut a group for a while. so the trainee stays, and trains, hoping to be selected for that group. then the group members are finalized from the trainees and the leftovers are either promised other opportunities in the company and stay for more years or leave. sometimes members get added last minute bc the company think they add something visually or otherwise.
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Yes they are, kpop legends
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Just looking at the groups that I stan... it's usually a case of them having an outstanding aspect (often vocally) that's needed in the group so they put them in with a shorter training period.
A lot of times the ones who train for longer periods seem to start super young. Like Jihyo was like 10 when she started with JYP. Johnny from NCT also trained for a decade, but until he graduated from high school in the US, he only trained during the summer.
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It depends on the company but sometimes it depends on being able to slot them into the right group. Thinking of SM, the delay in launching the Chinese NCT unit due to THAAD meant a longer trainee period for some of the trainees. Some of them were poised to go several years earlier. Also, injuries can come into play (Ten had knee surgery, for instance) or other aspects (Johnny went back and forth over summers to finish HS rather than being a full time trainee for a few years).
I think there’s a standard timeline to develop all the skills, but I know SM will fast track extremely talented vocalists with less training and catch them up on the other areas (this was true for EXO and NCT) to complete a group. I think they feel like if the voice is amazing enough, you’ll forgive some weaker dancing and performances, but that you won’t forgive that without an amazing vocal.
Baekhyun and Chen were last minute additions to EXO (under 1 year and spent a lot of time with other members catching up on dance), while Renjun (1 year) and Chenle (trained for 2 months) were last minute additions to NCT Dream. Similarly, although the WayV members waited quite a bit for their unit, Xiaojun was added to WayV at the last minute (6 to 8 months).
Shotaro is one of the few I can think of with a short training period that was not a main vocalist (less than 1 month), but he is an exceptional dancer.
The average trainee time across NCT at least is about 2 to 3 years.
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