Isn't it weird that K-pop is so fixated on the US but nobody is getting close to BTS and BP?

    One would think K-pop must be doing extremely well with all these US investments, but nobody is reaching BP, let alone BTS. Not even TWICE.

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    No organic demand. NGL sm is most desperate for it. atleast for twice they can chart in bb hot 100.

    Right.


    If these groups can’t even reach twice, or bp, than no way they can get 1% of bts fame.


    Not just in America btw

    I don't understand why they do the full us release schedule and yet keep flopping even worse than before. The achievements don't get better even when they change release times to fit the us markets.

    It's only weird if you don't listen to the songs that kpop groups put out these days. Groups release songs that aren't going to do well in the US. People really expecting groups to breakout with songs like Future Perfect, Girls, Up! and Sneakers? Twice similarly are stagnant putting out songs like Scientist and Nayeon recently Pop. From one listen you could tell these songs will not to well in the west.


    BP are a group tailor-made for the US market and the sound they've kept since debut is a major part of that, these other groups are trying to be the jack of all trades with multiple markets. No-one is trying to develop naturally, everyone wants a piece of the US pie as quickly as possible.


    BTS are pretty much a grass roots movements with how the fandom was built up in the US and is something you'll probably never see again. All these other new bg's are trying to jump the gun that it's not surprising that it's Stray Kids, a group that have taken a while to really break out and create their own sound, are doing the best internationally. They chart on the Bubbling Under for Maniac so a Billboard 100 debut is probably not too far away.

    It’s because no one is checking for them outside the small kpop stan niche

    They need that BB200 recognition.


    Any slightly successful Kpop group can make that BB200 top 10 list nowadays.

    It's weird that fans are so obsessed with western validation.

    it's because these companies got rocks for brains.

    They are all competing for the same limited market, which is Western kpop fans.

    Because even if they don’t do BTS numbers, there is still money to be earned from the biggest music industry in the world


    And also trying to succeed in the western market has nothing to do with western validation. You all have cooked up brains

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    Because even if they don’t do BTS numbers, there is still money to be earned from the biggest music industry in the world


    And also trying to succeed in the western market has nothing to do with western validation. You all have cooked up brains

    The one person with a brain here. US Market has money for kpop. You don't need to be at BTS or Blackpink success to get some of it.

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    Because even if they don’t do BTS numbers, there is still money to be earned from the biggest music industry in the world


    And also trying to succeed in the western market has nothing to do with western validation. You all have cooked up brains

    how come back then Kpoppies kept insulting BTS with Western validation?

    But now, it's got nothing to do with it?


    You all have cooked up brains.

    IVE have done literally nothing that show slight interest to promo in US right now. I wonder how it will be like once they start promoting there if its anything similar to the efforts Starship did with Monsta X since Ive is only behind these 3 top groups on international charts without any promo.

    I could see them start touring with only a couple of songs and still be successful.

    It's not weird imo. For bts and bp there was always demand meanwhile for others it feels forced and inorganic

    There is no actual demand. It is cringe to watch some companies push their acts and do fraudulent things just to appear big there.

    It is not weird, because even a tiny portion of the humungous US market pie, makes more profit than an average portion of the S.Korean or other markets. China is possibly the alternative options, but their the regulatory challenges are hell.

    Hence it makes sense for all K-pop groups to try the West/US. Even if they don't grow as large as BP/BTS.

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