The real reason why so many people dislike Aespa

    I know mys probably already got it in their head that it's all about jealousy and bitterness. Which yeah some of it probably is or at the very least are a symptom born from the actual reason.


    The actual reason?


    Aespa's "success" in the West comes across as very performative. Meaning, SM is media playing them too hard to appear as if they are on the same level as BTS and Blackpink, which if you actually look at stats, makes people feel very cringe toward them.


    SM seems to be checking off everything BTS and Blackpink did in the west as if to say "look, they are on the same level"


    When in reality, it you look at streaming, Instagram followers, YouTube views etc. Aespa doesn't even have a quarter of the same level of achievements.


    So far, the only thing they can boast are album sales, but as far as most are concerned album sales are becomming irrelevant rather quickly due to cheap digipacks and cbars bulk buying. It really is hard to think most of these albums are going to be going to actual people and won't either be donated or shipped off to some dump.


    And I think, it really wouldn't have been so bad had Aespa actually had the appeal to justify all the push SM is giving them, but a large majority of people don't see it.


    Even though people used to hate on BTS, they at least had music that majority of people included haters couldn't deny was good. For Blackpink, even though people thought they weren't strong performers, they eventually proved they could indeed put on a good performance.


    But for all of Aespa's push, there doesn't seem to be an upside that would otherwise balance it out for most people. I would go into detail, but I feel like if I start picking them out mods might mistake this thread as a hate thread or whatever.


    I honestly just wanted to dissect what it was that was causing this adverse reaction with Aespa to most kpop fans.


    Tldr: to a vast majority of the Kpop fandom Aespa come across like a group of nepotism kids parading around their parent's connections without having earned anything on their own merits and lacking self-awareness of this fact.

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    It’s not that deep pls can anon let go of aespa hate alr

    their fandom dragging other 4th generation girl groups but to be fair they stopped now but it was bad last year

    and now people are turned off by SM's mediaplay but I don't think people really dislike aespa as a group per se.

    nope the reason I don't follow them is because at debut they started with the dumb shit AI concept and I didn't like or follow them.

    Now I just don't like them because like with ITZY they are only popular for being popular they have crap songs, don't sing live and are not really noted for being good in the world of girl group chorography. so what do they have? big 3 privilege and a pretty face and for an SM group they are really sub par

    because of the music, not singing live and toxic fans

    stfu every big 4 group does the same shit corny bitches trying to justify why yall cyber bully aespa

    I agree with your post. Sadly, it isn't really the idols fault in this case, though admittedly, I've never seen anything they've done, not one performance. I know you'll say, "but how can you judge?" as soon as I heard their "hit" song was a literal copy of the fast and the furious song, that cemented their category.


    But this is all compounded by SM, with their feverish desire to get a bit of the achievements that BTS and BP have gotten in the west, they'll do whatever, pay whoever, and adopt any tactics to push their agenda. Kpop media play at the highest level.


    I was talking to a girl who's Korean the other day, and we were discussing kpop, and I mentioned to her that to me, Korea is like a small town in the US. Meaning the people or in this case companies who have money are beyond the law and do whatever they want. All the big 3 privilege, all the media play, all the tactics that these companies use work very well in Korea, but it's not that simple in the west. But that hasn't stopped SM from trying, blatantly, that, more then anything has had an effect on the current situation with this girl group, and the public's (those who give 2 shits) perception of them.

    Nah, people were hating on aespa before they launched and before any US-targeted promos. The way Kpop fans retcon everything is extraordinary.

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    Nah, people were hating on aespa before they launched and before any US-targeted promos. The way Kpop fans retcon everything is extraordinary.

    It's not a retcon. Yes, people were hating on them, but every idol group gets hate in some for of way. The main difference is now the hate they get is definitely at a whole new level and it's definitely SM's fault.

    No it's obvious most people were hating on them because pressed they're successful don't try to justify the hate they've been getting.

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    It's not a retcon. Yes, people were hating on them, but every idol group gets hate in some for of way. The main difference is now the hate they get is definitely at a whole new level and it's definitely SM's fault.

    Other idols don't get accused of bullying other people to the point of death predebut.They've been getting tremendous predebut hate predebut and no other idols have been getting the same predebut.

    people disliked aespa the minute their debut news were out and the fake rumora so mostly the reasons are because misinformation and people lacking reading comprehension regarding aespa.

    Also, to the people mentioning the music being bad, I did say I wasn't going to pick them apart because I don't want it to turn into a hate thing. But yes, their sound being too "out there" doesn't help their case, I'll admit

    also do they have to copy everthing?

    Lisa has long black hair with bangs...Winter has long black hair with bangs

    Lisa has short black hair with bangs...Winter has long black hair with bangs

    Lisa has short black hair with bangs and a lock with a different colour...Winter has short black hair with bangs and a lock with a different colour (in the same spot jeesh)

    Lisa has short BLOND hair with bangs....guess it , you cant? well Winter has Short blond hair with bangs


    :sweatr::sweatr1:SM you are SO ORIGINAL

    personally i dont like them because their music sucks and they suck on stage as well. even if the music sucks, if i like how they are on stage (itzy, nmixx, etc), ill still stan but if the music sucks and u suck on stage, theres just no redeeming factor

    Another day, another long ass essay about why someone dislikes Aespa.


    It's okay to dislike them, but what is with the incessant need for everyone that dislikes them to be obnoxiously loud and proud about it.


    Where's your essay about other groups?


    We get it, you don't like the fact that another group is being pushed down the same path as your faves. But you know what? That's what SM is supposed to do. To see the opportunities and take them. If Aespa was only targeted towards Korea and university festivals they'd be stupid. If Aespa can capture a fraction of the success that BTS and Blackpink have in the US, and then blow up in other places, they're doing alright.


    You bang on about how their stats are a fraction of BTS and Blackpink. That's fine, they are still young and growing and if you take BTS and Blackpink away and compare them to every other Kpop group, they are doing phenomenal. So their fans have every reason to be happy with the success that they've had. You have to be blind and stupid to not see that it's antis and trolls setting them up against BTS and Blackpink every bloody day to get dragged.


    Kpop is big enough to have Aespa in it. Them making some inroads in places like the US doesn't take anything away from your faves.


    Will they ever be as successful in the west as BTS and Blackpink? Probably not, but what's wrong with them trying to chase their dream?

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    personally i dont like them because their music sucks and they suck on stage as well. even if the music sucks, if i like how they are on stage (itzy, nmixx, etc), ill still stan but if the music sucks and u suck on stage, theres just no redeeming factor

    People keep bringing up their sound, making me feel like I should never have omitted it from my assessment. But yes, when I was talking about them not having anything to balance out their media play, mentioned BTS for that reason. No matter how much people didn't like BTS, I never saw anyone dragging their music, dance, or rap skills. They were always great performers that suited the West. For Aespa the same can't be said at all.


    Basically, the thing I was trying to get out without outright saying was that the redeeming quality is hard to be found. If they had one, people might not be so annoyed with them to this extent with their media play.

    stop with the bullshit Aespa has been getting hate before they even debuted. You guys just need to admit most of it comes from bitterness and jealousy cause the girls themselves have done nothing to warrant this hate and you now it. But according to a particular fandom "Aespa deserves all the hate they're getting" for shit the girls themselves didn't do

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