not bad, itzy. better than most groups ive heard speaking english

I would agree they studied really hard for it prior to the release of the english versions of their TT

they've definitely been improving.

When I heard them in their interview last year, I know they can speak conversational english

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Honestly, as long as they try, that's what's important. It seems kinda condescending to judge any group or idol for their English skills.

Again I'll preface by saying I'm not starting anything or trying to bash anyone...

certain foreign members of other groups were judged on their korean skills after debuting as a kpop idol - ie their pronunciation or whatever...by koreans obviously and sometimes by ifans...

why can't the same premise be used to judge someone's english skills?

or looking at it this way...

you can try really really hard and work harder than anybody else and still not succeed or even debut...why is the trying really hard part so important instead of the outcome?

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Yeah, that's fair. I'm just wary when it comes to idols doing things to impress westerners and, simultaneously, westerners being overly critical of idols for doing those things.

i can accept that

and like i said the girls have improved so much but certain people will still judge them for having an accent or something else...