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Flower Road was a huge hit though and the GP still loves BB. At the end of the day, you’re going to piss off someone with your decisions so might as well make money while doing it! They gain absolutely nothing by tiptoeing around the uptight opinions of random old Koreans who will quickly move onto the next thing to get angry about anyway…it’s the nature of the mob. Plus at the end of the day, the majority of their fans are outside the country and will be eager to consume any constant put out in the meantime. The machine must roll on.
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They already lost a lot of hype. The hiatus and anthology killed it. Still bigger than the other bg but declining steadily.
a convenient fantasy. if they announce a world tour next month as the rumors suggest, you can guarantee every single one of those dates is going to sell out in record time unlike any other act on earth. and if they are losing fickle K-pop fans in the process of gaining mainstream listeners and ticket buyers, maybe that’s not a bad thing.
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Of course they will take a hit. Regardless if they go all together or stagger it and promote as a group without members or release solos, they will lose fans, it's just what happens during enlistments.
If people aren't getting regular content, or regular content from the member/s they like they drift away.
Anyone thinking it won't affect BTS is deluding themselves.
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the new fans will drop really fast
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I think the same. Hyungline had the opportunities to collab with whoever they want and release their mixtapes its time for maknae line to have those.
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Of course they will take a hit. Regardless if they go all together or stagger it and promote as a group without members or release solos, they will lose fans, it's just what happens during enlistments.
If people aren't getting regular content, or regular content from the member/s they like they drift away.
Anyone thinking it won't affect BTS is deluding themselves.
either or, they will take a hit. But enlisting together for 18 months gets them in a better position for a comeback rather than stagger it for at least 5 years?
Do the maths. 18 months vs at least 5 years 🤷♀️
Or maybe some members just want to quit after enlistment? Start a family /other endeavours? They won't be in their 20s ( or be in their late 20s) after enlistment. Who knows?
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either or, they will take a hit. But enlisting together for 18 months gets them in a better position for a comeback rather than stagger it for at least 5 years?
Do the maths. 18 months vs at least 5 years 🤷♀️
Or maybe some members just want to quit after enlistment? Start a family /other endeavours? They won't be in their 20s ( or be in their late 20s) after enlistment. Who knows?
(Don't two of them have long-lasting injuries or medical issues that mean they wouldn't be active duty they would be public service, gone for two years not 18mos)
True, but most groups seem to prefer to do the staggered enlistments because it means they have more opportunities to branch out and establish solo endeavours that they wouldn't have as much time to focus on when promoting as a group, or have a break from the rigours of group activities in general.
Plus having a few members still active helps the group more than having all of them disappear.
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Even BP takes a hit to their streaming due to hiatus, it is just not talked about enough cause they continue doing better numbers than all ggs (and everyone except bts really). That said I think bts should be fine, hybe are still gonna release albums or member mixtapes with them in military, it just won't have much promo and army will still support
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Taeyang and Daesung enlisted on the same day it was released. Seungri didn't even enlist by then. So by official records half of the group was still active, so it's not really that illegal. But they were still criticized for it by media.
If BTS enlist all together (mind you not even BigBang did this), they wouldn't be allowed to release any content at all. No OT7 songs, no solos, no fan content... like literally nothing. Forget about public hate, they will actually be charged and might as well have to restart their military service duty (+2 years). And I don't think any fan would want that over just one song.
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Do the maths. 18 months vs at least 5 years 🤷♀️
They can have comebacks as a 4-5 members unit. They have a lot of age gap between the members. By the time the maknae line enlist, the hyung line will be back. You all want this only bc of the fantasy of going to their concert with only OT7 members. But BTS can have that OT7 concert after 5 years as well. If you're still a fan by then, you can still go. Or maybe you're worried you'll move on. Then that's a genuine concern for you.
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Armys around me are already moving to new 4th gen groups.
That's good they're just in time for Trainee A's debut then.
Hybe is not that worried about the enlistment as kpoppies like think. Between TXT, Enhypen & Trainee A group, they have all the bases covered. That's 3 million sellers right there and they're just at the beginning of their careers.
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Taeyang and Daesung enlisted on the same day it was released. Seungri didn't even enlist by then. So by official records half of the group was still active, so it's not really that illegal. But they were still criticized for it by media.
If BTS enlist all together (mind you not even BigBang did this), they wouldn't be allowed to release any content at all. No OT7 songs, no solos, no fan content... like literally nothing. Forget about public hate, they will actually be charged and might as well have to restart their military service duty (+2 years). And I don't think any fan would want that over just one song.
damn, punitive af. they really make it a hard sell for anyone to even pretend to aspire to do this…so archaic!
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some users here are so transparant.
Bts has, compared to every other group, never become stagnant in their numbers. I still remember how everyone and their mom were convinced bts was done for after on (even when they did better achievement wise) & we all know how that ended. People have been speculating about them becoming stagnant or falling since 2018, aren't y'all tired yet of being wrong?
Always knew hybe stans were delusional.
Hybe is freaking out about losing bts, otherwise they wouldn't be fighting this hard to get them exempt.
All those groups (and the 7238 hybe is planning to debut) aren't gonna compensate even 40% of what bts gives them & anyone with 2 braincells knows that.
Hybe might be able to survive a bit longer if bts leaves, but they have way too many expensive (and failing) projects going on that depend on bts' like income to keep afloat. Without bts, they won't be able to keep that business going as its now. They'll become a midtier company again when they can't depend on them.
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Always knew hybe stans were delusional.
Hybe is freaking out about losing bts, otherwise they wouldn't be fighting this hard to get them exempt.
All those groups (and the 7238 hybe is planning to debut) aren't gonna compensate even 40% of what bts gives them & anyone with 2 braincells knows that.
Hybe might be able to survive a bit longer if bts leaves, but they have way too many expensive (and failing) projects going on that depend on bts' like income to keep afloat. Without bts, they won't be able to keep that business going as its now. They'll become a midtier company again when they can't depend on them.
BTS going to the army was not a surprise to Hybe, they already planned ahead and successfully diversified their businesses to avoid any loss. Would they still rather to have BTS not enlisted at all? of course, BTS is still no doubt their biggest money maker right now. However they are far from replying on BTS alone, this is not 2018.
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BTS going to the army was not a surprise to Hybe, they already planned ahead and successfully diversified their businesses to avoid any loss. Would they still rather to have BTS not enlisted at all? of course, BTS is still no doubt their biggest money maker right now. However they are far from replying on BTS alone, this is not 2018.
And pretty much no one of those diversified business is taking off... Net marble, their partner when making games, showed losses (again). The webtoon's succes has quieted down immensely, to the point that korean journalists asked hybe why they thought it had failed. Remember, they used bts' brand to promote all of these business & still weren't as succesful as expected. Fact that hybe has to keep reassuring stockholders they have a plan for when bts enlist shows that whatever they are doing with their diversifying projects at the moment isn't even enough to show those stockholders that they can do well enough without bts.
All of the others top companies have established themselves by having produced multiple iconic acts & SUCCESFULLY diversifying into other sectors (that aren't depended on promoting them with one certain act) to the point that stockholders mostly trust them. I'm saying it now, if bts enlists all together, hybes stocks will plummet bc nothing they have done, except for activities that directly involve bts, has given stockholders confidence in hybe as a company.
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BTS going to the army was not a surprise to Hybe, they already planned ahead and successfully diversified their businesses to avoid any loss. Would they still rather to have BTS not enlisted at all? of course, BTS is still no doubt their biggest money maker right now. However they are far from replying on BTS alone, this is not 2018.
Well their plan failed that's why they're so desperate for that military exemption. Naver webtoons failed their gaming department failed and don't forget no big company is going to invest in Hybe if bts leaves for 2 years. Their connections in west are all because of bts if bts is gone their acts will have to face problems in Western promo. They're nothing without bts. Right after bigbangs sucess yg had 2ne1, and later winner both were successful. Hybe failed in music department and others both.
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If the Proof era was better planned and released at the end of year with a couple of surefire hit songs included it could very well serve them for 18 months…my main gripe is this. I feel like HYBE fails at strategy. They desperately need to get over their ego and allow UMG to take over on release strategy (or should have let Sony finish their job after two successful years of pandemic era smash singles).
Even if exemption didn’t happen, there’s still plenty of time this year for new music, a tour AND the anthology — in hindsight, this will become obvious. But in times of uncertainty, HYBE becomes a deer in headlights.
We also have to consider what BTS want or if they want this. Also, they are 7 people that have different opinions. We'll never know what they are planning unless there's an official announcement from the gov. After that, we'll definitely know their real strategy. Besides, I really think BTS want to rest for a while or lessen their promotions. They've been working non-stop and had an aggressive promotions around Dynamite & Butter. I feel like this pandemic and their lost in Grammys (they will get exempted FS if they won anything) made their plans go sideways. Artists also feel burnout & frustrated.
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