Posts by superyeah

Quote from hopemin

trump is bad, but i feel like it's always been bad. like yeah he certainly made a lot of things worse and increased tensions within the country, but it's not like he created racism and racism is going to go away now that he left office. immigrants who come here thinking it's this idyllic paradise will still be disappointed.

Yeah, I agree. I feel like the hostile, racist, intolerant attitudes have always been there; they just got emboldened to be put on public display due to Trump's rhetoric. I just hope that the younger generations will be more sensible and united than this.

Quote from SandyBee3

Sure it wasn’t what got them the popularity, but they definitely had interest entering the market and did probably prepared for it a little. Well at the end BTS was able to gain popularity there for various other reasons.

It wasn’t a collab to get the big breakthrough for sure, but it was definitely a little push in the right direction. I think most collabs are something the Artists dreamed of. Tbh I think many western fans don’t know much about BTS before 2017. I was actually following them for a while till 2017.

Gotcha. I absolutely agree and understand your perspective now.

Lots and lots of anime series. I'd love to give them a chance, but it's hard for me to get started.

The United States is a country that's long been held to high standards. Immigrants immigrate here because they believe it's the world's best country, where politicians are free from corruption and the president has the highest level of integrity possible.

Trump has created a divisive, hostile environment for both politicians and ordinary citizens. It's a shame to know that so many far-right extremists are still out there and will continue to be emboldened by him after his presidency. They feel emboldened to create and spread lies as they see fit. When things don't go their way or fit their narrative, they feel like it's normal and acceptable to start believing in lies and spreading these lies.

I feel sorry for the many immigrants who had to witness this. I know many of them supported Trump, but it's likely they just didn't know any better.

Quote from SandyBee3

Was American Hustle not a way to get connections and smell a bit of the American music market? It seems like they always wanted to enter it sooner or later. And they had western collabs after it too and that was before 2017.

Trust me. I thought of this, too, but I'm talking specifically about steps BigHit and BTS made to gain popularity in the West. American Hustle may have prepared them well for working in the western world and knowing what to expect, but I don't think it made them more popular to westerners who didn't previously know of them, at least not to a significant degree.

You may have a point with the western collaborations. RM did have a song with American rapper Wale after all, and this was way before their mainstream breakthrough in the West. However, I don't think this was necessarily something that pushed them ahead; most western fans probably don't even know RM had a song with Wale, for instance. It was a cool thing for RM to do, still, because it was something he probably dreamed of doing for a while.

Quote from uknowwhat

Both are fakes news!!!!!!

Don't we have reliable source anymore?

BTS members did receive an invitation from Louis Vuitton, though.

BLACKPINK as the nation's pride is a subjective thing. We know they're popular faces in South Korea. In my opinion, there are multiple "nation's prides." It's not that serious. There's no point in arguing over which group is singlehandedly the "nation's pride."

Quote from HardcoreBLINK

Nobody tries harder than LSM to have their group breakout in the west lol

SuperM literally exists

I stand corrected. They just always did it in a less obvious way before SuperM.

Let's turn back the clock to 2017 for a bit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like BigHit didn't actually do much to start BTS's success in the western world. BTS naturally gained fans all over the world, and they didn't have to adopt a western sound to do so. I think that's a pretty way of achieving western success. Of course, they capitalized on their success and made moves to further it, which worked out in their favor.

Quote from chaesooo

there is no harm in trying though. they'll get there when they get there!

also, it's not just jyp. it's also sm and other companies.

bh and yg are the only ones successful to chart in hot 100, 200, spotify, apple, etc. simultaneously during release.

Agreed. It's clear that it's not something that every company prioritizes. It's far safer for a company to invest its resources into appealing to the Asian market. It's a much bigger risk making a huge push towards the American or western market, especially when the Asian market might not perceive it well. That would be a major setback for the company.

JYP Entertainment is going the safe route by doing basically the minimum. They're coming out with English versions of ITZY's most popular songs, not a completely new song in English.

SM Entertainment barely ever does anything differently to appeal to the American/western market.

Not every company is trying as hard as BigHit Entertainment or YG Entertainment is. Even then, BigHit probably wouldn't be trying as hard if BTS never naturally gained that many western fans. BigHit's success with the western market seemed to have happened organically by chance and they just capitalized on it. There wasn't anything that sounded "western" about "DNA" by BTS, for instance, but it got the popularity it did because BTS captured the hearts of western fans naturally.

Quote from azhra-0110

Not even sm seriously broke the american market yet. They chart on bb200 with superm & nct for a few weeks but their songs don't even show up on us spotify top 200. Heck I remember superm couldnt even chart on itunes. If anything it is still only bts+blackpink with twice showing up for a bit

I don't think people realize that not every company prioritizes the U.S. market the same way BigHit Entertainment and YG Entertainment do. Most companies still have the Asian market as their top priority even if they might make a push for the western market every now and then. The K-pop industry isn't centered around the western market.

Quote from carljungkim

And still failing miserably. Bless.

JYP Entertainment doesn't care as much as you think they do. The American market isn't their top priority. If they really cared, they'd be doing a lot more, trust me. They have the resources to.

It's just that they prioritize the Asian market a whole lot more. Success in the western world is secondary. To JYP Entertainment, it's probably cool if it happens, but they're not going to lose sleep over it.

Great song. Great group. Loona truly deserves a lot more recognition and appreciation.

They absolutely look great with bangs, especially Seulgi during "Bad Boy" era.

I love it now. It hypes me up. When it came out and I heard it, though, I didn't like it.

That was what I originally thought, but there's supposed to be a difference between the two, at least in how they were intended to be. Maybe the users aren't completely understanding it.

K-pop Lounge is where miscellaneous K-pop topics go. Example: "Which K-pop idols have the best style?"

K-pop Music is where we discuss the music itself.

"Love So Sweet" by Cherry Bullet is a bop.

Something tells me Aespa would be good for business in maybe a year. For now, though, I'd say Twice.

They were definitely in the same territory of SNSD and Wonder Girls. Even when I didn't care much for K-pop back then, I knew about them through the help of my cousins, especially because they played "Roly Poly" a lot and it grew on me. Around that time, I also learned of the scandal, which actually saddens me in retrospect.

A lot of Blinks got into K-pop after 2NE1 disbanded, so they just don't care. I don't think they're necessarily trying to ignore 2NE1. It's just that they barely knew of them and they don't care. It's that simple.

Mamamoo Solar (and basically anyone in Mamamoo because even rapper Moonbyul can be main vocalist in other groups)

Red Velvet Wendy

Ailee (soloist; I'm not sure if you can consider her K-pop anymore because her music doesn't sound like the usual K-pop)

Multiple members of SNSD

Some members of the rookie groups are showing promise, too:

Ningning of Aespa

Goeun of Purple Kiss

Several members of StayC