Posts by pchromo4
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I didn't think MHJ would remain as CEO for that long (even by her own will, I assumed she'd bounce from HYBE as soon as her employment contract was fulfilled) but ngl I think it's extremely messed up if HYBE doesn't pay her for their mutually agreed-upon put options this year. Hybe agreed to those initial terms, and regardless of personal feelings, MHJ delivered on results and output. I don't see how it's legal for a company to essentially back out of paying a bonus after enjoying the profits already. That alone is worth a countersuit imo.
Also, when is BSH's resignation coming
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I can't remember the last time that Hybe made an actually good business decision, so................
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It doesn't matter how big his scooter is or where did he drive it. In the real footage, you can see people walking and there were a lot of cars also. Not to mention, we only saw a footage when he arrived home. Do you think he was drinking next to his home? He used a scooter so he was far away from his home, so technically it's not like he only drove from the next corner.
Actually your assumption is part of the problem from JBTC's footage. Because of that false footage, everyone assumed he was riding from at least 3 km away. The real CCTV footage shows he rode the scooter ~500 meters, 1/6 of the distance claimed from the fake footage. These details matter. They don't excuse that he drank and drove, but it fueled a lot of the initial hate against him.
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Sharing fake FOOTAGE and FAKE NEWS, isn't the same thing, and like I said, that's not the most important thing in THIS case! It's not like JTBC lied about him being drunk and driving! End of story!
What is the difference between fake footage and fake news? JTBC's footage showed someone on a bigger scooter zooming down a large and busy road far from Suga's residence, which is simply different from the facts of the case. Suga got dragged for simply calling the scooter a kickboard in his apology. JTBC broadcasted wrong exaggerated footage (on a national news program).
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100% sold-out rate and another record is set! Queen IU!
BTW, I don't remember, but I don't think I've seen any Kpop artist doing this. I mean, the 100% selling rate! Maybe BTS or BP, but I don't think they did it. Their best was like 98%.
External Content x.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.IU is always very conservative with her venues but I hope this recent world tour has given her more confidence on her global touring power. Next time I hope to see her go to Australia, Canada, and Central/South America.
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Employee B gave the date herself. Why am I being gaslit like this? Lol. She received the result on the 16th.15th.jfif.jpg
The Naver article said March 21st but maybe they were confusing the resignation date? Honestly, if it's as mild as MHJ makes it seem, it doesn't even seem like it'd be worth meddling or interfering with the investigation; HR would've come to their own conclusions. But everything being accused on both sides should have official documentation (whether B filed report due to poor performance, if MHJ actually interfered with the investigation, etc).
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It's actually worse. She allegedly cc'd from the VP from the very start on the 6th and kept on defending him to Hybe in emails that he could see. If that's true, he knew details of the investigation and knew what excuses MHJ was making for him and against the employee, possibly giving him a defense to use before the investigation.
If that's true, that's extremely unfair and a disadvantage to Employee B. And also extremely shitty and unprofessional that Hybe would allow that and not be cause for reinvestigation.
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Ok. I see where the misunderstanding is coming from. You do realize that the investigation was concluded on the 14th, MHJ was given the finalized report on the 14th. Employee B was given the report on the 16th. You cannot conclude the case until Employee B is given the report.
This doesn't mean the investigation was ongoing from 15-16th. The determination of whether it was a sexual harrassment/bullying was already made on the 14th.
Where dos it say Employee B was given the report on the 16th?
My understanding of what Daisy provided:
Hybe HR emailed MHJ the results of the investigation on March 14. She immediately CC'd Executive A and protests the conclusion with HR. Hybe and MHJ (unknown if also Executive A) exchange further emails/conversations from March 14-16 - I'm assuming March 16 is when Hybe says they will not re-investigate (thus formally concluded). March 15 is supposedly when MHJ coaches Executive A, maybe to petition Hybe to reinvestigate to remove even the warning recommendation.
Employee B receives the report on the 21st, which is also when Executive A should've also received it, but he was given advanced notice 5 days earlier by MHJ (showing favoritism).
But like I said earlier, a lot of she said/he said, a lot of conflicting claims, and a lot of assumptions for both statements.
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She's on 6 month probation Hybe program.
And she didn't deliver to her demanded salary. And have issue with other workers prior to directive A.
She was lucky she's not terminated.
And yes, it is only fair for others if employee paid based on competency.
Ador didn't mistreat her.
Display MoreSo the demand from Employee B
-MHJ resign from CEO (???)
-Money
-Apology
It's interesting she never demand open her SA case.
Did Hybe offer her position to be Ador CEO if they success ruin MHj ? She seems like ambitious women who think highly about her ability.
Lol.
Yeah, she's not that innocent as she portrays herself.
I think you are misunderstanding her recent statement - she said she never demanded MHJ go to police, step down, or money - she just wanted acknowledgment that her harassment was a legitimate complaint and an apology for covering up the allegation before. Employee B claims that after her first public statement, Executive A reached out to her to apologize privately and Hybe also reached out to apologize and re-investigate the case.
Re: workplace performance, that should be the easiest to prove or disprove. Employee B is claiming that of the 5 people who evaluated her probationary period, 4 recommended her and only 1 (Executive A) didn't recommend her. I assume Ador should still have those records so that should be an easy gotcha for MHJ if those details are false.
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If it is legit then them confirming it's real without them ever having a statement out for it would basically confirm that they have insiders leaking information to the press, so maybe that's something they don't want to admit? It is strange for them to not outright deny it if it's a false report but I have no idea if this is standard procedure for them if there's an ongoing police investigation.
I feel like that's the answer that makes the most sense - but those leaks need to stop imo. That was a common complaint during Lee Sun-kyun's case, and it only stokes misreporting and speculation in celebrity cases.
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This.
Like I keep seeing people saying he has a drinking problem he is an alcoholic like .... I don't know where they got this from.
Like if there is 1 thing I learn from this thread is that he has a drinking problem because I keep seeing people saying this????
Most people are going off the assumption that he blew a 0.227% on a weekday night and some past clips of him talking about drinking. This is all an assumption, but as someone who does not drink, I think it's great for anyone who does drink to periodically evaluate their relationship with alcohol and see if it's causing destruction in their life (and in this case it definitely did in Suga's).
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Here's her ending statement on why she's suing MHJ - so it sounds like a defamation lawsuit. MHJ can always countersue for defamation if she feels that her reputation is also being impacted.
Whether I was good or bad at my job, how much I earned, or even what misconduct Executive A committed are all beside the point. If Executive A disputes my report, does that instantly make my report a baseless and false claim not worth investigating? Is it acceptable for the world to believe that I am a crazy person who filed false reports out of spite, even if it completely destroys my reputation?
All I wanted was a correction of the lies and a public apology. I didn’t ask you to turn yourself in to the police, step down as CEO, or give me money. Yet, you couldn’t even offer a simple apology—the one easy word that would have meant the world to a powerless employee like me who has been wronged. Instead, you went as far as revealing my KakaoTalk messages, falsely accusing me of low performance, and disclosing my salary reduction—something no employee would ever agree to voluntarily. I look forward to seeing you in court and at the Labor Office. I hope you make good on your threats to accuse me of false reporting and ruin me.
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I'm talking about the new lawsuit(s) that Employee B just opened because she's unsatisfied with Hybe/Ador's response.
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The 0.227 number is still being so ubiquitously reported that I feel like it would be way too ridiculous if it ends up false, because it would mean the police also allowed a false report attributed to them to continue circulating. IDK why the police also won't confirm it though. It's weird to have no comment on a statement that supposedly comes from them.
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Yes well i already kind of answered that since i said B has stated lies. She lied about the drinks, she lied about being alone so she lied about the SA.
While MHJ didn't lie and she always backed her arguments with recips and facts and that since april. So if anything i think she is a far more reliable source.
And MHJ isn't stupid enough to lie on paper and publiquely like that but apparently emplyee B is. Or maybe she is just getting payed well enough to spurt lies because she sure isn't clean at all.
And YOU'RE the one being specially quiet about her being a hybe proxy. And Hybe using her to kick MHJ out penniless. But you don’t seem to care much about that injustice or that ceo mistreating and bullying a women worker issue.
Like I said again (and again), performance reviews are usually recorded as company documents so it will be very easy to prove or disprove. IMO I don't need to call either one a liar about that because the results will come out eventually. About the specific details of the drinks and SA case, I don't want to say too much because there's still some confusion over what Executive A did (again, why would he apologize then?) so I'm also not calling anyone a liar based on that as of now.
I'm being quiet about her "being a hybe proxy" because..... it's not proven yet lol? I'm sorry that I don't want to make premature allegations. Just like I haven't accused MHJ of anything.
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Sure Jane. Since YOU know then it must be true! Still an anonymous! Still an under qualified worker for such an high position in ador.
So what character assasination? Lol. Do you even know what it means or you're just talking sh*t at this point.
B didn’t even came from the entertainment industry so who the f*ck even knows her? Omg.
I like how you skipped over my previous comments about how their statements directly contradict each other regarding the performance reviews. Like I said before, I only ever reply to you to provide information that you ask for - if you're not interested in learning, there's no need to quote me.
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On more than one occasion, I've said that I don't think MHJ is a good person but a very talented and competent industry veteran with a tremendous reputation and body of work in the industry. This is evidenced by the constant swell of support she has received from creatives and artists across the industry, even from rival creatives like the former YG creative director.
My position began neutral and turned extremely negative towards HYBE, once it became clear that they didn't give a shit about NewJeans as members or as a brand.
I have absolutely zero reason to not side eye anything they're involved in, as they've shown multiple times that there is no low they're unwilling to sink to in order to drag down MHJ with them and their downward spiraling reputation in the public.
I don't trust everything MHJ says at all, but I trust her with NewJeans. That's more than I can say for HYBE, and after the stunt they pulled with that amateurish brain dead video Belift released, and the disgusting leaking of pre-debut footage and medical information to Dispatch, I will NEVER be pro-HYBE anything ever again. There is literally nothing they can do to redeem themselves in my eyes, and I will tolerate them for as long as NewJeans has to suffer their miserable, incompetent existence.
Now I hope I don't need to set the record straight on my position again due to the vapid strawman arguments I keep getting attached to.
I could think MHJ is a piece of shit human being and STILL she would rank far above HYBE on my scale. We wouldn't even be HAVING this conversation about this particular incident if Hybe didn't make it public and try to weaponize it through Dispatch.
This is what I mean by people losing the plot. And I'm not going to be an enabler of it.
Show me the evidence of a company takeover or breach of trust or consorting with outside investors or SOMETHING, ANYTHING, they accused MHJ of.
If they can't, they can shut the hell up, leave NewJeans alone and let MHJ finish out her contract in peace.
I feel like every exchange I have with you devolves into this exact essay and my response is always the same: that's great for you, and I already know, hence why I understand what motivates all your perspectives and opinions. I'm not even disagreeing with you that NJ is better off with MHJ than with Hybe, but to me NJ is irrelevant here. Regardless of Hybe's motives in this SA case, MHJ is on the offensive against Employee B, and that's causing a lot of gross language toward the alleged victim. I'm not even asking for people to stop being gross, I was making an observation in this thread.
