Posts by BornPink

I agree that Tomboy is bigger than Gidle themselves. That being said, their next comeback is gonna be their most important one. If they try to replicate Tomboy (the song) they will flop

What is up with all these collabs? Hybe is really trying to milk them before they have enlistment

If they released cookie as their pre release I doubt they would’ve gotten as much attention

I think it would be good for both groups if they had a comeback on the same day. It would push both fandoms to buy as many albums as stream as much as possible

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I still don't understand how this was calculated but not surprised. Twice hasn't scored a hit since fancy and red velvet was always inconsistent.

Also izone numbers back in the day was as good as gidle and itzy. All average or below performances for all 3.

Gfriend lost clout too early

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I calculated which girl groups are the most consistent digitally

I decided to calculate the average charting positions of title tracks of the top girl groups by their ranking on Gaon digital chart. To make things easier, if a group released a double title track I will only use the higher charting song and I won’t take into account special albums like The Year of Yes or Merry & Happy.

The closer the number is the 1, it means to e better they are digitally.

BLACKPINK- #1.85 average
TWICE- #5.06 average
RED VELVET - #6.41 average
IZONE- #12.6 average
G-IDLE - #13…

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Aug 4th 2022

I think OP took the peak of the title tracks on Gaon digital chart and then divided it by the total number of title tracks. so for example for twice up to Yes or Yes, TWICE had 9 number one songs and a song that peaked at #10 (LOA). You would multiply 9x1 and then add that by 10, and then divide that by 10. The average would be #1.9

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No shit Sherlock, my point was about 2019 being a year Twice were still doing better digitally and physically and how are people are retrospectively try to rewrite history.

No one is talking about 2019. We are talking about the numbers as of TODAY. KTL is outdoing fancy

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Notice how you're changing and adding goalposts every time, now bringing in the fact that it has better international stats.

No-one cares about longevity and official digital certifications, but a 1 week peak of BP coming back after their biggest hit and basically having the same Melon UL's makes all the difference. Right.

Says it all really on this topic.

the way Onces keep holding onto to Fancy stats because it’s the last hit twice has. That was released almost 4 years ago please give it up 😭

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Why would we talk about Feel Special when we're discussing Fancy vs KTL here? While at it, lets talk about Ice Cream, Lisa and Rose solos.

If we’re gonna talk ice cream let’s compare that to The Feels. There’s no competition here

And Rose outveiwed and outcharted every twice song since fancy.

Both money and Lalisa has more views than any twice song. And one of them was a dance performance video.

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Can we discuss feel special or is it a sensitive topic?

I think feel special, more & more, I can’t stop me, alcohol free, and scientists are all sensitive topics

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Digital points don't matter, right. As in, of course you'd say that, Fancy nearly also did double the weeks KTL did in the Melon top 10 but you want to take a 1 week peak as more solid evidence.

Quickly checking now, Fancy got the 100m Gaon certification last year whereas it looks like KTL doesn't have one yet unless wiki is wrong, despite coming out earlier.

I'm sure a lot of BP tracks are charting higher currently as they are more popular at the moment and also have a much smaller discography that new fans will go towards.

No one cares about how many weeks a song spent in the top 10 except for Kpop stans. KTL outpeaked, has more uls, and was a massive hit internationally. Please stop trying to set twice up like this.

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Dude, literally check end year charts, stop embarrassing yourself

When did I ever mention the year end charts? I’m talking about statistics as of TODAY.

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I'm very aware of that in addition to vocal about Twice's position in recent times

I'm talking about how some fans are trying their best to rewrite history

Fancy has 704m digital points and KTL 559m. KTL does not have more UL's, they are both on 4.3m.

Cumulatively up to now yes because BP got bigger, in 2019, no it didn't.

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That data is outdated. KTL surpassed fancy uls. It doesn’t matter which song has more digital points when none of them were big hits. Facts of the matter is, KTL peaked higher, has more uls, and it’s currently outcharting fancy.

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Fancy both outcharted and outsold KTL, go check the year end charts. KTL "outsold" Fancy last year, because yall literally have no other albums to buy

Outcharted where? KTL had the higher peak on Gaon digital chart as well as more uls. BP came back during rising Sun when literally the entirety of korea was hating on them and still outdid your faves

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Did I imagine Twice outselling and out charting domestically in 2019 when it was Fancy and Kill This Love

I feel like the transition is being moved earlier and earlier every year.

Twice didn’t outchart in 2019. Fancy peaked at #3 and KTL peaked at #2. KTL also has more uls on melon. Also KTL the album outsold every twice release in 2019

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but it did eventually though as the years went by (iirc d4 is only 100m ahead rn? correct me if I'm wrong) and I'm not saying it beat d4 at that time since it didn't but it was the competition along with power up(who fell off like a rock). Also DTNA floated the charts better than d4 did longevity wise but that's a different story.

DTNA is a summer song so it’ll always rise on the charts during the summer. D4 had the biggest peak with 1m uls for over a month on melon, and the highest weekly digital points of all time.

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nah during d4 it was still twice vs bp since DTNA was actually able to fight D4 in kr charts but D4 annihilated yt views that it pissed off armies(d4 still stayed winning). I know this cause I remember the 3 month LONG DTNA vs D4 threads in both OH and AKP + Twitter charts lol. The real gap happened sometime in 2019 when Pinkchella happened.

Also true, no matter how good the album twice makes it will not matter since people don't give it a chance to begin with which sucks for the b-sides when majority of them since FS are better than title tracks.

DTNA didn’t come close to DDDD’s digital performance. It only made D4 drop to #2 for a week before it overtook it again

twice stopped being rivals in 2018. Now the gap is too big

I agree LOA-Fancy was probably one of the greatest runs in Kpop. If only they stuck to that sound

I don’t think so. They posted the teasers too early for an august 26th release. I’m guessing it’s the 19th