Posts by TheBotter

Quote from Icaro_Ribeiro

This narrative is so false...

Explain?

Quote from hieuken

Hype Boy has less playlisting than Love Dive, Pop stars, I am, After like

https://songstats.com/track/e8g3yikw/love-dive

https://songstats.com/track/wh…/pop-stars?source=spotify

https://songstats.com/track/s3wbxig6/after-like

https://songstats.com/track/dcn94l6o/i-am

Not really proving any point. Paid playlisting isn't only used to inflate streams or that false narrative pushed incorrectly by K-pop stans. It's also used to promote and push a group to new audiences and push them to more recommended list, grow monthly listeners and hopefully promote the rest of the groups music.

I think HYBE used playlisting push well for NJ in the sense that it promoted their group and consistent sound well to grow their brand and appeal to a much wider audience than others usually can. Which is why when the bulk of the playlisting and high playlist placement wore off the songs fell only a bit and didn't drop off a cliff.

I think absent the ability for those other songs to achieve high positions on playlist like TTH and recieve that level of promo we can't rightly compare the results.

I also think you can't just look at the blanket number without a deeper analysis of the actual real world meaning behind those numbers. I mean whats worth more a position of 40-50 on a playlist with 10m followers or a position in the top 10 on a playlist with 2-3 million followers. Absent the deeper analytics those numbers will only provide a part of the conversation.

I'm not saying they will all have a similar result, look at Cupid has stolen every bit of attention Ditto had and no one would say it isn't by miles the K-pop of the year, arguably the biggest since Gangnam Style with only Dynamite as a question. But of sourse their other songs haven't really picked up so who knows? Perhaps with or without the same level of playlisting push things would have turned out exactly the same.

Maybe, in their home market it's them or Ive from ooking atthe outside, I dont really keep up. Internationally they had a lot more playlisting and spotify push than their contemporaries. I can't say others like Ive, Aespa wouldn't have reached that level too with the similar insane playlisting reach they had over their 4th generation counter parts. Even on that level though Fifty Fifty has made all that seem rather pedestrian.

I think a few months ago I would have thought Ditto and OMG would have been on top in that regard for maybe the whole generation considering even with the push they were still fairy well known track, but next to Cupid they are a whole league below.

4th generation is very competitive.

This is the only K-pop release this year that hasn't filled me with massive cringe. Good job.

Newer, younger K-pop fans just don't use forums

All Kpop stans are toxic and it's never more obvious than on certain social medias, especially TikTok, Instagram and Twitter.

It's sad how much bullshit nice fans go through and the bulk of each fandom, even the really toxic ones like Blink, Once, Army, Exo-L's etc the vast majority are fine. But the vocal online minority is awful and the worst side of Kpop.

It's unfortunate as most of the hate these fandoms put out it reflected back at their idols. They don't know you, they don't care about you, but they know your fave and the first port of call is going to be to abuse those you stan.

As such fandoms should look internally at their own behavior and try to change that instead of crying about the consequences of years of unchecked bull shit that's come from their own co-fandom.

I have VIP tix to Twice last show in Europe so it's possible they get sick with travelling from UK to France to Germany in a couple of week period and given Dubu and Jeong both just got covid it's fully possible other members are sick or fatigued by the very last date of the tour so I'm prepared for the possibility of not having all 9 members present and at the end of the day their health comes first.

Quote from Disevidence

Not disagreeing, i think 10.5 is probably where they'll land, but you also can't just quote the charts to make a calculation at the moment.

Take the 120m from Friday and apply it to the Chart release tomorrow.

Agree that was my mistake, I should have looked up when the chart updates before speaking.

Quote from Disevidence

You're missing an entire week of views - YT charts update tomorrow for this week.

Regardless, given their current views this week, last week, etc and the steady and natural downward trend their views will be 9-11 million roughly. Which still wouldn't make it the most viewed MV and will still give them roughly 65-ish million ad views.

This isn't really true, according to the official charts of Youtube Queencard has registered 45.5 million views. Still good, but 74.7 million ad views is quite excessive.