Posts by OpieAnt

Quote from harambelives

You wrote one example, songwriting, and left it at that. Other users also picked up on the same point I did and they replied to you on that. You didn't even clarify or expand your opinion further after my first post which was focused only on song writing. Hell you even got called out for only picking on female idols and more try to backtrack to include males.

And I'm the one with the knee jerk reaction...

You read what you want to read, is what I got from you. Read it again. It wasn't just about songwriting.

Like I said, it was mostly girls but boys too. I guess in the day 'n' age, we have to all play the identity game. Everything has to be all-inclusive and whataboutism if you divvying out any perspective-- which defeats perspective. What inane culture.

Quote from harambelives

You're the one who thinks idols without specific non performance music related talents shouldnot be soloists

By your own logic freaking Taeyeon should never be a soloist considering she never really writes any of her own songs. Explain that

That was one aspect I pointed out. It wasn't a be-all, end-all. I guess you didn't consider the context of my post due to your knee-jerk reaction.

Quote from i9son

I don't know maybe they want to see more of their fave

Okay, I submit: That's a good enough reason.

Quote from monalisalove

Read your own title.

Well, boys too. It's just a lot more K-pop fans are calling for these girls to become solo artists.

Quote from harambelives

Why do anything since people will die anyway

What? What fallacy did you get that line of argument from?

Quote from monalisalove

the illusion kkkkkk

You are really throwing this whole illogical thing judging a whole group of girls just bc you don't like their way of being soloists?

Move on and understand that nobody is obligated to satisfy your taste neither be to your liking. Move on and understand that your opinion is just rude and not a critical with points made, just a plain rude point.

If you don't like something, YOU stop listening or even interacting with this something. This way you will be happier and without being sour.

Not just "girls," boys too.

Quote from monalisalove

Bc it's what they love and want to pursue. Bc it's literally what keeps food in their table. Bc you don't need a reason to do things just bc people like you don't see the logic without understanding that they are doing what they do bc they like it.

This is not a validation case, this is people professional life. You don't need to know why just bc you find it miserable. But you do need to respect as you are no better than any of these females idols!

Well, from an audience point of view, it just rings hollow. I prefer artists to be artists, and not socalled professionals and careerists. I want a professional when I having something done to my house. For the arts, I don't much care for professionals or careerists.

Quote from harambelives

I hate ask these gatekeeping bullshit about artistry. You listening to pop music at the end of the day, it's not supposed to super deep or have some kind of lore behind it. Kpop in particular is notorious for being heavily manufactured and controlled.

Writing a song doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. What if it's a a shit song? What if it flops? What if the lyrics aren't good? Does that mean the sing writing "artist" is better than another idol who didn't write lyrics but their song is much better liked and praised?

Writing is also only 1 part of a song, what about actually creating the song (instrument, mixing, etc) which very few idols. Hyoyeon isn't a great singer, nor a writer so she doesnt "qualify" to go solo but she's one of the rare idols who actually creates her own music and actually puts out some good songs, better than artists idols.

Then why bother? Other than for a little cheap fame.

Quote from I-dont-cAre

Why is songwriting so important? In my country singers rarely write and no one care as long as you are a good performer. Do all solo artists in Korea write their own stuff?

I do agree that ggs fans want everyone to go solo regardless of potential. #freeXXX

It's not just about songwriting, because nobody writes their own songs anymore. It's about having an artistic purpose and some merit.

Quote from MassiveKpopFan

The music industry is "selling out", so I can tell right away you're not even trying to hide any bias.

BTS sold out to the West BIG TIME with "Dynamite" and their subsequent Grammy shenanigans.

Quote from dummi

lmfao love the title of this thread

Racist.

Once K-pop gets out of the habit of emulating or being overtly influenced by Western artists, then they will be more respected. GFRIEND's "Rough" is an example of K-pop coming to its own. But now we got BTS selling out and kissing Western ass, musically, which, a lot of people won't admit to, is setting K-pop back at least ten years. With the present state of BTS in America, you can begin to see that they never did it on their own terms-- it's all marketing.

Some members aren't just cut out to be solo artists. Even the best frontmen in rock 'n' roll were never meant to be solo artists. Just because you can sing doesn't mean you should be a solo artist. First of all, you have to know what you are as an artist. And most of them haven't even bother about songwriting, let alone about how to go about writing a good song-- and not just to throw out a "concept" and be done with it. Otherwise, it just rings hollow, just going solo for solo's sake-- just to say you ventured out and went solo. Remember when solo artists used to go out on full albums, now we got "solo artists" with, at most, two songs. Give me a break.