overall? I don't know about IU, how many albums she sold?
lilac has 413k+
overall? I don't know about IU, how many albums she sold?
lilac has 413k+
also, this is sorta why i added that "how they're credited in it".
i feel what you're saying is more relevant to OSTs than "collabs"
those are not comebacks and usually the artist and their agency have nothing to do with it, apart from lending their voice.
so whose is it? the singer or the drama production?
Display MoreYet that is what is pursued in all fields everywhere.
Theories, definitions that fit and therefore can predict, making human life easier.
K-pop is no exception. Why else are there so many metrics, charts and people interested in them?
We always seek to measure, define things,
what are you even saying... everything has exceptions and exceptions never stopped the world from categorizing things
Well I am looking for a definition of how songs are accredited to an act and considering different examples, not just one case or another. The ideal definition should fit all cases.
lol nothing fits everything, in whatever context.
but that's not the case you were discussing about nor is it something that happens regularly
no one doubts whose comebacks those are
Display MoreDelve into technical detail how KOMCA credits songs? Then we might find that many songs have 50+ people involved, yet the general perception is of the person who performs the main performance content.
In this case IU did not promote it, other than a tweet/insta post (?), she did not do MV. lyrics etc., just only gave her vocals.
So what decides if a song is IUs (or anyone's)?
Production - then many of BTS songs might not be theirs.
Songwriting - again the same issue.
Performance - then this is an IU song.
Promotion - then IU and others have many B-sides which have zero promotions, other than being part of the album.
So it is just 'Perception' I suppose. As with most things K-pop, including what defines 'K-pop', there is no solid definitions, other than popular perception.
i would say: first who's agency publish said song
seem the most fair way.
then how they're credited in it (feat or not)
royalties are a completely other thing tho
tbh I kind of got the sense that iu/her team was interested in a north american tour for 2020 but then pandemic happened....
can i ask what made you think this? imo they seem everything but interested in promotion outside of asia
you just presented misoginy and blamed women for it. oook
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So, in the end, they never announced the new percentages and the awards are this Saturday
their site also still say 60 digitals 40 judges so are we sure they're really doing it lol?
I don't think competition impact that much digital points
But both first month and full year have their disadvantages
i don't think they even meant to only count 1st month but a mix of both. only first month would me really dumb for a YEARLY category
I also thought she was gonna film that movie with bae doona or smth
They filmed from April to June.
It's the one with park seo joon that they still have to finish, in January tho
Display MoreIt's been a very long time ago since she did a commercial song (except osts). She wasn't as big as she is now.
I don't know mate, I just don't feel good about it. Probably because in my country, it's lame to do things like this, unless the commercial song is really outstanding.
Considering previous pepsi songs, I feel like it will be just a standard kpop song and a standard MV but with pepsi logos in every frame
I just wonder why she accepted this offer, she is rich enought to deny it... Was it;
- a very big paycheck?
- a really good song?
- Kakao M who forced her to do so since Starship is under Kakao?
- IU who wanted to donate pepsy money?
- Her manager/CEO who really needed this deal to be done?
bro calm down lmao
why are you making a problem over this. it's a song, she just isn't paying for it what does it change for you if the pepsi logo is everywhere? listen to it and enjoy it. And if it's not of your liking go back to her old songs.
there's literally no difference between this and an ost
in mma? never
I could ask the same thing, personally I think some of those daesangs could've easily go to other artists, especially album of the year. MU was huge and you're talking about one of their biggest domestic and internationally acts and Coldplay, which is self explanatory, I'd say go enjoy your fav's wins instead of throwing shade at others.
especially album of the year? that was set in stone for iu look at the stats...
yeah sorry i remembered wrong and didn't double check
still a 2 points error margin for these prediction isn't a lot since we don't know all the data
Oh brother. Read the chart maybe. The top 10 have no judge based. It's 80 percent digital and 20 percent vote.
If anything, people should have been making a bigger deal for this, since Bonsang is the biggest award you can get beside Daesang. AKMU should not have win this award over 5 other nominates.
oh yea sorry i'm dumb i forgot
but anyway as people is saying here, there are downloads and "melon internal data" whatever that is and akmu had a pretty successful album (so more tracks to dowload) and these predictions aren't correct 100% so a margin of error of at least 2 points is possible
they didn't even lead
If you know this and believe this then why cry over award shows. Don't give a shit about or talk about them. Problem solved.
gda were pretty fair in general but here we have changmo case. his top10 bonsang was SECURE, until it wasn't. obviously rigged to favore a group. and they use gaon and we know gaon stats
Either My Universe had a big lead on downloads or they don't consider a featuring a collab. I can't think of any other fair explanation.
I think you should let it go. Granted, we don't know what the actually data they have used but it's the most fair and accurate out of most award shows.
See this chart below. Akmu won the bonsang, but the data doesn't agrees. It's the only oddball bases on the data. Maybe MMA want to award AKMU with the top 10 and take away this award. Just my guess.
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look who decided that november exists again...
f*@k them lmao
the only one talking here is a random person online. surely not them lmao