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https://charts.youtube.com/cha…/global/20210108-20210114

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ah it somehow did not show on music video section, weird because during first and second week it did.

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Youtube delete views and add them later on, accumulated might look 8m in a week but some of those are added views from what they deleted. Moreover, do u have a source for the week 1 january 8m gain?

Also youtubers make every week videos how many views every group will do, You can see 8m here.

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They joined both charts in 1st and second week of january. Guess the clowning ends now?

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I can not find them on my Youtube chart, after second week they have never charted.

You can check it here

https://charts.youtube.com/cha…/global/20210101-20210107

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That's your own analysis out of thin air, it doesn't match what you sent me and you don't know that aespa had constant ads, the argument even by OP was that they had an ad campaign just before reaching 100M

It is not analysis, it is pure fact and data, even site say the same.

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I read it fully, but the margin of error is the same for everyone and it does say the estimate is conservative but they expect their model to only have at worse a 20% ad variation so I don't get why you single out aespa when the model is the same for everyone and aespa ads percentage is still very reasonable compared to some even bigger groups.

No other girl group got 2.5m likes in 2 months for a debut

There is not many group that uses adds after first two weeks, thats why their adds are way more accurate. Everglow for example only used add during first week. They have only 1 week of adds which is extremely easily calculate how many adds they have, because of youtube chart. But Itzy and aespa is using adds after month of their songs have been released. It make it extremely hard calculate how many adds they have been used in reality.

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According to your own comment, the ad variation from the estimation is at worse 20% so at worse 30 millions ads instead of 25 out of 108 millions, just say you hate them lol

I guess you only read small part of it and not fully understand how that site works. This is just staying on facts and in the future, if you use that site, you should take these things into account.

I am not hating anybody here, I just want people understand how that data works once it have been used.

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No it doesn't, it uses its own algorithm based on likes and views, what are you trying to say?

No it does not use algorithm based by that lol...

Please read this at least once, it will save you some time understanding how it works, and if its accurate

Is this data trustworthy?

In short, the estimated data DEPENDS. the data derived from Youtube Charts Yes.

The estimated data uses View per Like and View behaviour (bumps on views without likes following) to estimate ads. Since viewership follows a predictable path, it is also somewhat easy to notice the presence of ad views, but calculating how much depends in a lot of factors.

To prevent showing inflated ad view estimates, this site is conservative and will always round up numbers to less views, and will not detect small campaigns. Because of this, the data is not fully trustworthy, but the error margin is for LESS calculated ad views, and usually only 20% variation.

Youtube Chart numbers are trustworthy because they come straight from Youtube: Their charts do not count ads, so a basic "public view counter" minus "views on the chart" will reveal the ad views. You can check Youtube Charts here.

For more on how the data is calculated, how to see ad patterns and the math behind it, check this article.

Videos that get high views (above around 5 million per week) will usually show on Youtube charts and be very accurate, the less acurate data is for videos with less than 5 million views per week, because they won't chart on the top 100 Youtube charts.

I saw an advertisement from a MV and it is not listed here

Like mentioned above, one can only detect big campaigns that usually purchase millions of views. Most smaller companies, and sometimes even big companies, buy small number of ads or spread the ads in several weeks, making it discerning them from normal views through either behaviour statistics or monitoring Youtube charts pretty pointless. This list only shows the big numbers.

If you care that much that the video be listed here, you can mail us, but the best we will be able to do is probably just list it without any number.

What about small campaigns, bot views or third party views?

Smaller campaigns, or a small number of views (relative to the millions that videos usually have) are pretty hard or impossible to discern and are bound to go unnoticed. Like mentioned above, this list shows the big and obvious ones. We can know only what we can find, otherwise we would be inventing numbers.

Why bother with listing adviews if only big numbers can even be detected?

So people understand that VIEWS MEANS NOTHING. It might be impossible to have accurate ad-views data, but we can at least have enough to show the numbers are highly manipulated, and this is just the tip of the iceberg, since there are a lot of ways to gain views that are not actual people viewing and cannot be detected with precision. Trust your instincts, like what you want, and don't let numbers rule your music style.

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2020-11-17

Aespa (에스파)

Black Mamba

107.7 m

~25.0 m

~22.0 m

~23.2

23%

If you wanna compare

http://kpop.aoimirai.net/known_youtube_promoted_mvs.html

This also only count adds used during first 2 weeks, because aespa never charted on youtube after. You should not blind follow that site, because if the group can not chart on youtube, it is impossible to know how many adds have been used.

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BM view increase outside the Inkigayo win was 500k DAILY LMAO.

OFC Aespa1stWin trended on twitter, ppl streamed BM again, and it even rose trending on youtube again. Then why don't you view YT chart and see if they used ads? LMAO what a delusion.

They actually used adds. I check YT views on week 1 January. They gain over 8m views on that week, but they still did not chart top 100 which required 6.5m views.

fluent

Finnish

semi fluent

English

I have studied Swedish, but I barely remember anything about it. I know little bit Japanese because of anime lol.

Similar question would be, do you think gamers will reach female audience? Around 80% of gamers are usually male.

2019 , Blackpink and Rosé have been my first bias ever on kpop.

Gidle Soyeon is also the most popular and she is not visual either?

I don't know, why this is even discussion? Ofc they are.

Cherry Bullet is gonna have comeback tomorrow, do you think this is cute concept?

This is not music show stage?

Nobody mentioned Dreamcatcher Dami?

Sunmi

BP is only one who have 500m+ views on dance performance/practice video. Not sure but I think they have the most viewed stage performance video 218M + and third party lyric video 118M+ as well.

BP also have the best selling group album on ktown2u