Yes i think, no matter what they do, they wont be accepted by other stans. Especially big company stans. I dont know why but whenever they have a hit or something, people start to talk about how they manage it, they dont deserve it etc. They never mention them biggest groups thing etc or they just dont see the stats lol. I believe they never admit Gidle is succesful as other groups.
As a 4 year neverland, i became used to it.