Wonyoung was already and it girl before debut and her and Yujin already had brand deals before IVE's debut. Their music is nowhere similar to Blackpink, they don't even rap. Visuals? Starship always had good looking groups for all tastes, of course with IVE wouldn't be different. Even their styling is much different to BP's though it's just as pretty.
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Wonyoung was already and it girl before debut and her and Yujin already had brand deals before IVE's debut. Their music is nowhere similar to Blackpink, they don't even rap. Visuals? Starship always had good looking groups for all tastes, of course with IVE wouldn't be different. Even their styling is much different to BP's though it's just as pretty.
Blackpink is a trendy pretty group same is ive. If someone has knocked off the blackpink formula almost perfectly it's starship with ive. No popular fourth gen girl group makes music same as blackpink. But it's also true that blackpink was a organic group something ive is not.
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I’ve acknowledged their impressive performance on international streaming metrics so your comment doesn’t contradict what I’ve said? Unless you’re suggesting Spotify or billboard has any bearing on domestic performance which is false (Spotify user base in Korea is almost non-existent). As I said before their domestic charting is also excellent but there’s no need to exaggerate it by suggesting they’re beating big bang in any relevant chart when they have half the ULs on melon and genie - they’re objectively doing great in all metrics without the exaggeration
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You're only saying they aren't organic because you have that elitist thinking that a non big3 group can't do better than a big3 group. People said that BTS used to do sajaegi and all sort of nasty stuff about them because they weren't from big3 and look at them now. Your claim means nothing. IVE is killing in every metric.
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You're only saying they aren't organic because you have that elitist thinking that a non big3 group can't do better than a big3 group. People said that BTS used to do sajaegi and all sort of nasty stuff about them because they weren't from big3 and look at them now. Your claim means nothing. IVE is killing in every metric.
We all know about the playlisting and ads. It was embarrassing that they couldn't chart the first week on YouTube chart. Fans of such group want to go against big bang. I have to laugh.
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We all know about the playlisting and ads. It was embarrassing that they couldn't chart the first week on YouTube chart. Fans of such group want to go against big bang. I have to laugh.
Aww still coming for their youtube stats because they already destroyed on charts and sales
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Aww still coming for their youtube stats because they already destroyed on charts and sales
Why shouldn't we come for the YouTube stats? Even nmflopmix could debut first week
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Individual brand deals have been a thing for a while now and Blackpink music being generic? You literally listen a blackpink song and will know immediately it's them just because they are unique.
Can people stop bringing YouTube like the most important thing? Spotify, billboard, physical sales are more important and they totally dominate there. Of course they are not at blackpink level but overall they are the closest group to ever be compared to them
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Quote me when they deliver the stability and records in the global charts
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Individual brand deals have been a thing for a while now and Blackpink music being generic? You literally listen a blackpink song and will know immediately it's them just because they are unique.
Can people stop bringing YouTube like the most important thing? Spotify, billboard, physical sales are more important and they totally dominate there. Of course they are not at blackpink level but overall they are the closest group to ever be compared to them
Ive has got the blackpink aesthetics down the best. The best blackpink copycat that has arrived. Their whole aesthetics is trendy it girl Instagram vibes. I am surprised people are so dense that they can't catch it. No one copies blackpink songs but it's their image that they try to copy.
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IVE are doing great, but let's also be realistic: a significant portion of their views and streams is coming from ads and paid playlisting.
IVE are not the only one that use it, a lot more groups use it. But let's not fool ourselves with the fact that all their views and streams - or even the majority of it - is not from ads or paid playlists.
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IVE are doing great, but let's also be realistic: a significant portion of their views and streams is coming from ads and paid playlisting.
IVE are not the only one that use it, a lot more groups use it. But let's not fool ourselves with the fact that all their views and streams - or even the majority of it - is not from ads or paid playlists.
??? Playlisting what??? I can at least 10 artists who got more playlisting than I’ve and still doesn’t have the longevity and the peak. You learned the word playlisting and can’t stop talking about it.
Ads when 90% use ads isn’t a drag.
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IVE are doing great, but let's also be realistic: a significant portion of their views and streams is coming from ads and paid playlisting.
IVE are not the only one that use it, a lot more groups use it. But let's not fool ourselves with the fact that all their views and streams - or even the majority of it - is not from ads or paid playlists.
TLDR: I dont want to believe a mid sized company group is doing better than my big3 faves so the only logical reason for them to chart better and for longer than them in South Korea and worldwide is because of playlisting and ads, not because their music is catchy, good or appealing. "Objectively" my faves that make pots and pans with obnoxious rapping and screaming singing would do better than them without the ads and playlisting.
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