LE SSERAFIM needs to debut with 5 members or the group will be ruined

They'll be fine. Sakura's fans alone won't let them flop. And by the same token she's only out of there if Sakura wants her gone.

Next to an idol literally being a victim, fans love a good bullying narrative that they can flex their lateral thinking skills on. Aside from Soojin who handled everything badly and didn't wait for her stans to save her most other idols with bullying scandals pre/post debut have got past it with their fans more passionate about them than ever. They'll make Garam into the Mother Teresa of rookie idols before the end of the year.

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and guess what? they don't care lol.

their charting tanked . Fyi, nct could rise in korean charts after tayeong bully case got cleared

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and guess what? they don't care lol.

Because their audience isn't Korean especially Skz largely dependent on internaitonal fans.

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Because their audience isn't Korean especially Skz largely dependent on internaitonal fans.

yeah i agree. lesserafim seems to be targeted to international fans too.

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their charting tanked . Fyi, nct could rise in korean charts after tayeong bully case got cleared

i don't deny that though? but maybe jyp don't think the same as sm that's why they keep him?

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i don't deny that though? but maybe jyp don't think the same as sm that's why they keep him?

skz popularity carried by international market and hj is one of the most popular member

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Her and hyunjin daily gets bullied on Korean sns platforms.

Really? man, poor girl. People can be so toxic online. Bet if idols were infront of them, the netizen wouldnt beep a word and put up a fake smile. jfc

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sakura is pretty but not the prettiest. Yunjin's visual even ranked above her during produce era.

I need people to understand, beauty or attraction isn't only about a pretty face. Yunjin looks so cute, I'd prefer her to someone with a conventional prettier face but bland with not charming

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Itzy's Lia is still promoting even when it involved police investigation lol If there's still no hard evidence, it's just gossips and rumors at the end of the day. She already has many people simping for her visuals even with just 50 secs of videos and pictures, imagine if she also has the talents to back her up? (which i really think she does because why else Hybe is risking their reputation to keep her?). So I don't think anything worse can happen to her except being dragged sometimes on the internet like other bullying idols.

They kept Leo and he doesn't look like the most talented idol

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They kept Leo and he doesn't look like the most talented idol

Leo is talented tho, he is a songwriter and a producer

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Leo is talented tho, he is a songwriter and a producer

lol

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lol

let's not act like he's the most untalented idol ever. y'all jumping on the bandwagon hate train atp.

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They kept Leo and he doesn't look like the most talented idol

Leo was probably there face. He was a producer and songwriter too I'd have been hard to replace him that's why they kept him and he apologised multiple times its time for us to move on. This girl is just a visual and easily can be replace they can just pick a pretty face and replace her.