Did Aespa really have a debut album?

I've noticed a lot of mys comparing Aespa debut albums to other groups without actually taking into consideration that Aespa debuted with a digital single. And then had another one that became a hit after that.

In the west, the term "comeback" is used typically after an artist has fell off and lost most of their hype or fame and is returning after a long period of time to rise back up.

In the Kpop industry however, we use the term "comeback" for every time an artist or group is releasing new music regardless of how long ago their last release was or how well it did.

I mention this because I think it's time we come up with the proper description for Aespa's "debut" album that doesn't follow the western definition just as the Kpop industry doesn't completely follow the Western definitions for everything.

What most accurately describes Aespa's album in relation to the Kpop industry is actually a "Comeback-debut album".

Discuss.

Blackpink took two years to debut an album so is that not a debut album? Trying to snatch away aespa's achievements because your favourite couldn't?

Cry harder

omg get a life! lol

Does Aespa even exist?

A debut album is the first album a kpop group release so yes aespa have a debut album

they change terminologies to make achievements for their faves.

didn’t know they released an album. lol

What's an aespa?

Are you dumb? A debut album is the first album released by an act. Savage EP was their first album, so yes, it's their debut album. Can't believe I have to explain this like you guys are in primary school or something.

SM pretty much did the same thing YG did with BP. BP's first actual album is SQUARE UP which was released 2 years after their actual debut. Savage EP was just released sooner. Like....are you being serious rn?

By technical definition, it is a debut album since it's their first album release.

Does it even matter? It only matters for these stupid achievements. Just enjoy the music, bro.

it is too late to delete the thread, oh wait u cant even delete a thread on akp... shame

Where was this energy for BP and Square up?

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By technical definition, it is a debut album since it's their first album release.

Yes. I never denied this. What I stated was that it is a specific type of debut album in relation to Kpop.

It's a debut album that they had a comback with, thus a comeback-debut album.

To all the Mys crying pretending that people are robbing them of their achievements, do you honestly think dropping an album after two comebacks is the same thing as groups who debut with their actual debut physical album?

Ask yourself this: if they debuted an album with Black Mamba would the sales still be the same as savage? Do you honestly think their actual debut album sales for Black Mamba could compare to Enhypen or any other group?

Black Mamba is their actual debut, not Savage. Savage is just a comeback debut-album.

And don't mention blackpink because blinks weren't pushing a false narrative about their album sales.

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it is too late to delete the thread, oh wait u cant even delete a thread on akp... shame

The fact that you think I'm even interested in deleting is hilarious. Don't worry, there is still a lot to discuss here once the mys stop deflecting and crying about it . Somebody had to point out the obvious facts.

A debut album after a group has officially debuted should not be counted the same as groups that actually debut with their album.

It's common sense that most groups album sales will increase with each comeback.

Using this gray area to make a false narrative about other groups?

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A debut album is the first album a kpop group release so yes aespa have a debut album

Did you even read?

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Where was this energy for BP and Square up?

Why even ask this? Some of you seem to think because they used the same method the situation is the same. There was a lot of discourse around Blackpink's physical albums at the time, but for completely different reasons. People wanted to know if they would beat Twice or not. Either way, there wasn't any need to call it to attention because there wasn't a lot of competition with albums back then. Even selling 150k back then was considered great for a girl group. There simply wasn't a reason to mention it back then.

But now, with 4th gen things are completely different and the physical market has grown making things like having a Comeback-debut album like Aespa more apparent, especially if mys are going to use it as an excuse to put down other groups.

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Black Mamba is their actual debut, not Savage. Savage is just a comeback debut-album.

And don't mention blackpink because blinks weren't pushing a false narrative about their album sales.

Square up was also a mini album which is blackpink's debut album after they released five songs. If that is considered as a debut album why shouldn't savage which was released after two songs? If you consider square up a debut album then you are just biased against aespa saying savage isn't one. Square up was the best selling debut album by a girl group for few years. Your excuse of album sales increasing makes no sense. Black mamba is their debut song just like dalla dalla was for itzy. Are you really trying to disprove this?

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But now, with 4th gen things are completely different and the physical market has grown making things like having a Comeback-debut album like Aespa more apparent, especially if mys are going to use it as an excuse to put down other groups.

No one put anyone down. Stating the obvious is not putting anyone down. You are just insecure.

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Square up was also a mini album which is blackpink's debut album after they released five songs. If that is considered as a debut album why shouldn't savage which was released after two songs? If you consider square up a debut album then you are just biased against aespa saying savage isn't one. Square up was the best selling debut album by a girl group for few years. Your excuse of album sales increasing makes no sense. Black mamba is their debut song just like dalla dalla was for itzy. Are you really trying to disprove this?

No one put anyone down. Stating the obvious is not putting anyone down. You are just insecure.

Actually stop and READ the thread.

- I never said it wasn't a debut album, I said it was a SPECIFIC kind of debut album that should have it's own category. That category being a "comeback-debut album" because the advantage of debuting and have multiple comebacks before dropping a debut album cannot be fairly compared due to the large growth that typically occurs with each comeback.

-Bringing up Blackpink is irelevant to this conversation as I have already stated above in a previous response

-There have been multiple threads made with Aespa fans putting down groups from Enhypen, to IVE, to Kep1er, and Itzy using their debut album sales. Maybe if Mys hadn't done that a subject like this probably wouldn't have been brought up in the first place.

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-There have been multiple threads made with Aespa fans putting down groups from Enhypen, to IVE, to Kep1er, and Itzy using their debut album sales. Maybe if Mys hadn't done that a subject like this probably wouldn't have been brought up in the first place.

Girl no one cares you're the only one with this weird ass mental gymnastics aespa debut out sold at end of the day if it had flopped you wouldn't had cared and made this thread your irrelevant ass making 1 thread in anons like a coward will not take away they still have best selling debut album for a GG keep crying lame ass.

And let's not bring up kep1er and ive 3 months tv show with ifans hype and a gg with 2 former very popular izone members 3 years in the industry who 1 y'all call the 4th gen it girl make it make sense.