The absolutely disgusting situation with TikTok comments on Kpop accounts (Content Warning for s**cide)

So, in the past month or so, I've started noticing a truly disgusting thing happening on comments left on groups official Tiktok accounts videos that really do eclipse the usual vile stuff said on Twitter and Instagram.

I've noticed this behaviour occurring on many groups pages, with the most common victims I'm seeing as aespa and Le Sserafim, but honestly, no big Gen 4 or 5 group is unimpacted from what I can see, almost every group I checked with an active TikTok had these comments posted to some level. It's also more likely to occur on videos featuring one member of a group rather than group videos.

The general crux of this is comments encouraging idols to take their own lives, always framed in a form of comment of "Collab with Sulli" or "next Sulli" or other idol that has passed away.

The HUGE problem I'm seeing here is the TikTok alogorithm is actually pushing these comments to the top of each video posted, so when you open comments, they are the first ones you see. This is different to Instagram or Twitter, which would usually drop these comments low. Or in Twitters case, fans would flood them out with hashtag spam and other things. But TikTok somehow prioritises this shit, so if idols were looking at comments, it'd be the first thing they see.

On investigating this deeper I have found a few things.

• It actually seems like it's actually a small number of accounts doing this, you see the same names all the time.
• The culprits appear to be coming from certain fandoms, eg one of the more toxic ones plays as an aespa stan (particualrly Winter). Another supposedly a Carmen from H2H fan. Enhyphen seems to also be a stanned group by these accounts. However I have extreme doubts that these people are truly fans of those groups/idols. It definitely appears to be an attempt to smear those fandoms in addition to trolling the group being posted to.
• The majority of these accounts appear to stem from one or two countries in particular. I wont name the countries, but if you think of "usual culprits for truly disgusting kpop behaviour" you will likely hit.

The other massive problem here is there comments, while disgusting, are evading TikToks usually notoriously strict auto moderation. Saying "kill yourself" or even "kys" or anything similar will usually get a comment auto removed on TikTok. But the "Next Sulli Please" comments aren't registered as being what they really are. Even reporting them goes nowhere because Tiktok doesn't understand the nuance of what the comment really means, so they dont breach "community standards".

How on earth can this evil shit be stopped?

Here a number of examples of this bullshit happening, I am posting behind a spoiler because of the content and the size of them:

Users such as Carmen From Indonesia, Haru Softboy, Korizon_acha and Winterah are EVERYWHERE doing this

Quote from StanGIDLE

I've noticed that happening quite a bit on TikTok. There's way too many comments saying do what ____ did or be the next _____ . It's sad how hateful people can be on social media because idols read these comments and it shows you how strong they are. It's so weird how many of them attack Eunchae and hoping bad things happen to her. Also, people still calling Yunjin a zionist over a starbucks doesn't make any sense. We have idols that are doing marketing campaigns for companies that are on the banned list, so why attack her over that? I always report these posts when I see it but it does hurt when I hear idols say they read comments because idols like Eunchae, Lisa, Rosé, Yunjin, and many others have been opened about this. I feel for Yunjin a lot when she penned her letter about this and I am sure many idols felt the same way.

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Yeah there seems to be some real hatred from these miscreants towards Eunchae for some reason. Like there is a LOT of this on Eunchae centric posts. I don't understand that.

I am kind of close to... finding the personal details of one of these people. Now I need to decide just how much evil I fight evil with.

Quote from selfmate

interesting

does reporting them do anything?

Not a thing. The posts are worded in a way that means they dont breach TikToks community standards, probably because both the automods and any humans looking at them wouldn't understand what is being said, just parsing it as "Be the next big thing"

Quote from selfmate

hmmm...it's because they aren't directly mentioning suicide but doing it a roundabout way that gets past the algorithm huh?

I'm not on any form of social media but while I'm aware those comments obviously do exist - are they in the very very small minority?

like hopefully the majority of the comments are positive or at least neutral to "cover up" the negative ones?

Most big kpop accounts get 1000's of replies, so these are mostly in the minority. But like I mentioned, for reason the TikTok algorithm pushes these comments to the top of the comments listing, so they are usually the first comments people see.

Ironically, if you reply to these nasty things with an aggressive message, you are more likely to have YOUR reply deleted by Tiktok as harassment. Like I said something like "you sound a like jealous, nasty little cretin" and it was INSTANTLY removed.

Quote from selfmate

for the idols themselves I guess the only thing to do is to ignore them and have tougher skin

I've long held the belief that there is NO need for kpop accounts on social media to have comments enabled, or to only have comments from mutual followers enabled. There is NO need to have general public comment.
LSF turned off their comments on Socmed last year at the height of their hate train and it didn't impact anything.

Quote from DaisyTheGenuine

You could thanos snap half of kpop stans and it still wouldn't be enough

You could thanos snap half of kpop stans and it still wouldn't be painful enough

ftfy

Quote from StanGIDLE

It was honestly an interesting experiment. The members shutting down their IG comments didn't make fans lose interest, and most likely improved their mental health. The only thing it could possibly hurt is gaining fans because less engagement. Overall, they most likely received valuable engagement rather than toxic engagement that impacts their mental health. It's most likely better for idols to engage with fans on moderated platforms like weverse and other services.

And honestly, very, very few idols engage with fans comments on any public socmed anyway.

The most I've seen is very small groups like some comments (I've had Insta comments liked by the Rolling Quartz account and Jayoung from RQ). Or you get some idols sharing fans posts/videos. Like Jennie was reposting a lot of fans videos of "Like Jennie" dances.

But comments on posts? I just see little value for the groups