Current 12-13 year old Korean kids know Heechul as "funny guy, joyful & bright person" but they don't know he was/is a singer

yeah, well, they probably don't know suju, they probably think of them as 'old' music, if they're interested in idol groups, they'd probably be following the 3rd-4th gen ones. Heechul's a prominent presence on variety, thus, they know who he is.

reminds me of how these kids knew Key from amazing saturday, but no one knew shinee

And international fans swear on their life that koreans pledge themselves to kpop the way american students pledge themselves to the flag on school mornings.

Talking about pledge of allegiance, you americans are on some real cult shit

Quote from quark12395

It's not just Heechul. There used to be a decent compilation of people being surprised when Leeteuk sang or danced on the shoes he MCed. :-D

You mean this?