Big4 fans are really hypocrites.

    Watching their meltdown over IVE is quite incredible to see.


    The very same things their companies are known for (buying awards, media-playing, writing negative articles about other groups, using their influence to silence others etc.) is now being used against IVE to question their success.


    SM is well known for media playing their groups and buying awards at year end shows. Just last year NCT dream fans were sending trucks to SM's front door because how dare they buy awards for NCT-U and not Dream Unit, ironic right? Then let's not forget how they media played Aespa using Blackpink.


    Then we have JYP too with Twice and some of their awards they won for song of the year during years when their songs weren't even #1 on the chart.


    Hybe even more recently, was just nabbed for rigging a win for Lesserafim but all of sudden it's like HYBE fans forgot their company does shady activities too.


    YG is even in a class of their own after their burning sun scandal and how Yang Hyung suk is literally out here threatening to unalive people and is busy going to court. YG also used Naver to manipulate articles about their idols.


    But I get it.


    It's cool when they do it, but it's a problem when non-big 4 groups do it, right?


    Well, if IVE success is fradulant, then what of your faves? :clown:

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    it's kpop just log off all companies are garbage :pepe-back-away:

    you shouldn't be letting petty kpop fanwars rise your blood pressure

    Hybe is a corporation like Kakao

    K-pop fans please learn the difference!!

    Just leave the Big 3 out of it cause they are COMPANIES not huge corporations.


    Anyways kakao are rightfully being dragged, so why are you defending smear campaigns for a gotcha moment?

    you can't compare the other ones were speculations except for their scandals and the kakao controversy is way bigger than some mediaplay and it's already proven not to mention kakao owns melon ( who controls most music shows), daum, pann and have many other subsidiaries. Kakao is bigger than Hybe, YG, Sm and JYP combined.


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    The way this thread backfired :pepe-cringe:

    All the ranting, and for what? None of what your op says has actually been proven aside from Lesserafim’s music show, and that is so not on the scale of what Kakao did. Whereas here we have cold hard evidence of Kakao being caught red handed for a huge scheme. Not equal to whatever speculative bull crap you come up with at all. Use your brain people I beg you, lest you’re driven to the point of defending Kakao, a huge conglomerate, for some idols who don’t know or care about you

    Ah, the old pointing fingers to defend your faves argument. "But he/she/they did it too/did it first!!!" :pepe-clown-gear:

    other gg fans are acting like this kakao thing will make their faves bigger or more relevant than ive which is the most hilarious thing out of everything to me cause like how delusional do you have to be for that

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    other gg fans are acting like this kakao thing will make their faves bigger or more relevant than ive which is the most hilarious thing out of everything to me cause like how delusional do you have to be for that

    every success IVE ever had or will have in the future will be called into question, that’s never going away, ever. This stains their career forever.

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    every success IVE ever had or will have in the future will be called into question, that’s never going away, ever. This stains their career forever.

    only for people who want to believe that lol, japan alone will eat up whatever ive release they dgaf about kakao's antics matter of fact most of ive fans and casual listeners dont give a shit, so its not gonna change much because the same people that hated them before the controversy will still hate on them, thats just the excuse they were looking for

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    only for people who want to believe that lol, japan alone will eat up whatever ive release they dgaf about kakao's antics matter of fact most of ive fans and casual listeners dont give a shit, so its not gonna change much because the same people that hated them before the controversy will still hate on them, thats just the excuse they were looking for

    actually it changes everything. Every award, daesang, chart position is potentially cheating

    Watching Ive fans melt down when their small company underdog story unravels with the power their company actually wields is quite incredible to see.

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    Watching Ive fans melt down when their small company underdog story unravels with the power their company actually wields is quite incredible to see.

    a plot twist no one saw coming hahaha

    one of the bragging points they held over big 4 companies is precisely their underdog story overcoming hurdles that the big bad wolf big 4 wields, only for the truth to come out that their group is actually backed by the evil witchlord aka the most powerful of all, even more than big 4 lmfao. hilariously ironic and more than deserving for a bunch of people obsessed with holding onto their underdog stanning persona and shitting on big 4 groups for simply existing as big 4

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    you can't compare the other ones were speculations except for their scandals and the kakao controversy is way bigger than some mediaplay and it's already proven not to mention kakao owns melon ( who controls most music shows), daum, pann and have many other subsidiaries. Kakao is bigger than Hybe, YG, Sm and JYP combined.


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    That's why the groups under Kakao (excepted IVE) are the biggest ones. :sweat:

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