Posts by echo-sage
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Twice is far ahead of the other two. and ı think wg is bigger than sk but ı think they mean selling and profit.
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tru-multistan, superyeah, david33
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ok but that's not what bad technique since she knows how to support her vocals her problem is more like an over-embelishmment thing. She just need to know when to use it or not use it as much.
Here it's explained better
When vocal runs and high notes are used too frequently or in places where they don't add musical value, it can sound like the singer is trying too hard to impress rather than conveying the song's meaning
she will destroy her voice that is the issue. ı mean not healty
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1. That's why Idols who actually want to do this for long, usually debut as a soloist while their group is still active. That's pretty much the only way to keep the hype alive.
2. BTS is a 7 member group, so it's not that easy for all of them to top the charts, and just like Blackpink members, they are more popular in the west. If any of them will have a long and successful career in this industry, it's gonna be in the west for sure, not in Korea.
3. Yes, that's why I said, it's not easy and most Idols are failed, at least with streaming numbers, album sales and charts. BUT that doesn't mean their career is a flop. Being successful isn't just about these 3 things. The fact they can still release music, and they're not broke as hell, means they're successful. Especially if they can do a concert outside their own country.
...BUT that doesn't mean their career is a flop. Being successful isn't just about these 3 things. The fact they can still release music, and they're not broke as hell, means they're successful. Especially if they can do a concert outside their own country...
ı like calling ıdols and solos flopping. jokes aside this ıssue is pretty complicated and subjective.
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Ahyeon doesn't have bad vocal technique though doing unnecessary vocal runs or high notes are just unnecessary but doesn't mean she can't sing properly. She can she has a good range as well and I think those bad YG vocal coaches aren't there anymore if you notice YG's newer groups have better vocals than older yg groups.
this is one of the videos I watched about their vocals she is a vocal coach. There are things to improve but in overall they are good vocalist with a lot of potential
External Content www.youtube.comContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy." unnecessary vocal runs " this what ı refer by saying bad technique.
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Taeyeon is pretty much the only group member who is still massively popular and can top the charts. So, as you can see, it's not that easy, and she's not the only BIG4 group member who is still active as a soloist. Most of them failed to top the charts. GDragon is the other one who still has the power. No pun intended. 😂
Solar and Ailee are one of the best singers in Kpop, but neither of them topping the charts anymore. The fact that Taeyeon can do this after 9 years as a soloist is a miracle. I actually don't know how on Earth she can do that, even tho she always releases quality albums and the best vocalist in Kpop. I mean, group member.
And that's why Rose and Jennie or even the BTS members are not good examples, they're still rookie soloists and their groups are still active.
I don't think "being loved" has anything to do with numbers. I mean, sure it feels good for an artist to see massive sales and being successful on charts, but 99% of Kpop soloists can't even chart in the TOP100 on Melon, let alone top it. Kpop is ruled by groups, and there's only 3 digimon in Korea who can beat any group, and that's IU, GD and Taeyeon. That's why I don't think charts and streams are important. Senior artists whom are doing this for a decade don't care about charts anymore, and those numbers are more important for the fans, honestly.
That's probably true about most Kpop Idols, but the ones whom are still releasing music after so many years, they only care about the art. The others will pick another job eventually.
...but 99% of Kpop soloists can't even chart in the TOP100 on Melon, let alone top it. Kpop is ruled by groups, and there's only 3 digimon in Korea who can beat any group, and that's IU, GD and Taeyeon. That's why I don't think charts and streams are important. ...
but ıf you've just left your group behind, first need recognition so need charting well enough ( in this case for solo singer ı would say top 50 maybe )
... And that's why Rose and Jennie or even the BTS members are not good examples, they're still rookie soloists and their groups are still active...
after seeing the new gen. ı see bp members have a long successful carrier tbh. ı do not know about bts members that much but seems they are charting well but not relevant enough in public unlike bp members.
... and there's only 3 digimon in Korea who can beat any group, and that's IU, GD and Taeyeon. That's why I don't think charts and streams are important. ...
because they have gone through the stages of recognition and proving themselves.
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ı mean 4 and 5 gens are really really hopeless. after seeing 3. gen you can't take new gen. seriously. but ı see potantial on some ıdols to be successful soloist not sure about long-lived groups tho. while we will definitely see fewer solo acts I don't see it as a cause for concern either. especially for solo, there are solid candidates, on the other hand, I really don't see any newer groups lasting long tbh. maybe 2. and3. gens are too powerful ıdk.
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I mean, to be fair, most Idol groups fade away after 7 years or didn't last that long and disband. Most Kpop fans know that Idols usually wants to be Idols because later they want to be actors.
But for me, it's irritating as hell to see real talents getting wasted for a couple of millions of dollars for 5-7 years. And it's not like YG or any other company would lose billions if they give these kids proper training and healthcare, including MENTAL care.
This is why I always preferred small agency artists, because even if their groups disband, they can still have a career in the music industry if they're talented. Yes, they won't top charts and will have 1B stream, but couldn't care less if they release quality albums.
Also, yes, BM members are too young to care about themselves, but they have parents, managers, and their agencies. Sadly, in Korea, I can't see parents taking a stand against any company. At least when it comes to training, and healthcare. The whole country has a massive drinking problem, and they're workaholics. Their managers are the secondary puppets next to the Idols. So they don't really have anyone who protects them.
ı agree seeing real talents being wasted is frustrating, and also ı do agree that ıdol's management is problematic. but ıf you are not really really decent like Taeyeon, solar, or Ailee you also wouldn't last as a solo unless you are Jennie or Rose, etc. so building a lasting solo career is as hard as being an actress. these girls are not that spectacular considering their vocal talent, and they do not have recognition in Korea, which means they are not being that wasted.
I'm not trying to justify Ahyeon's bad vocal technique. Just looking at it from the outside, if the BM members want to go solo after they're no longer active as a group, they'll definitely need other things besides technical talent, like good song selection. What I'm actually saying is that they can claim to "exist" by being average or below average. For these reasons, I think almost none of the YG artists work on their vocal techniques or care about them, because otherwise it's incomprehensible that they'd be so rude to their voices.
In reference to what I wrote above, I find that group members in big companies with average or below average talent are more likely to survive in the industry than those in small companies.
about, "...they won't top charts and will have 1B stream.." phrase ı can't fully agree with you because ı think being loved and knowing your art or work appreciated is a very important thing to being satisfied in life. ı believe not every artist, esp. ıdols, has that idealistic mentality to just do art for art.
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yes, and ı'm waiting for more. ı believe next year will be filled with more cute interactions.
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Supernova >>>> Supernatural. Supernova is experimental, cutting edge yet retro feeling at the same time. Aespa vocals crush NJ's vocals every time, they have much more color and expression. Never been a fan of Newjack so maybe I'm being biased, but I'm sick of NJ's flat vocal delivery on every damn song it's getting boring.
exactly, and sorry ı couldn't give X1000 thumbs up.
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sounds really good. and somehow a familiar vibe
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supernova is the absolute winner here
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How can I be the hater of Babymonster when my little sister is the biggest fan of them🤣
Like she all the time dances and sings to Babymonster songs and I unwillingly have learned most of their songs🤣
ı also think you are just a regular hater.
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Exactly. I can already see Ahyeon losing the ability to sing if YG keeps pushing her. But hey, there's a silver-lining if it's gonna happen: YG will have 6 other members still. 🙄
I mean, Ahyeon never gonna be the next Taeyeon, Wendy, Ailee or Solar etc, but with proper training she could be in the conversation for sure.
Rami and Rora as well would suit an SME group so much better. I don't get why Yang don't give them more chance to shine. Maybe because neither of them look like the typical Kpop visuals, and tbf Ahyeon and Miss Banana Girl were already much popular before their debut.
he thinks average ıdol life as seven years or something like that and don't care the future, he is a bussines man , he gain by selling concerts, albums and merch. ı don't think bm will last longer 7 years tho, they will slowly fade away unless they get recognition from their country. and bm members are too young to think about themselves.
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whiplash is clean choice.
yes.
