Lol, I’m not going to try to convince you that I’m not a Blink. Plus, NJ’s achievements won’t change the fact that BP is the biggest.
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No, longevity matters when you're discussing the entire career of a group.
If this was an all time discussion, then career longevity is one of the most important factors.
That topic isn't relevant in a discussion about who is the biggest group TODAY or if any group has come close to the PEAKS of BP TODAY.
The answer for both is NJZ. Don't make me achievements spam. We know the numbers. Or at least I do.
Literally statistically they are the very definition of a group that has come close to doing or matching what BP has done internationally.
They're more popular in Korea and Japan, and can compare respectably to them in America.
Take off the homer goggles for a second and use your eyes.
even tho bp is not active they are still the biggest as group rn, and ı think you need to take off the homer goggles since you are fan of nj but ı'm not even a blink.
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No. It is not
Or Onces could use the success of Nayeon's solo to claim Twice the group were super successful in 2022. She had a #2 hit song after all
I can even use my own group, and say Mamamoo was a digital powerhouse in Korea in 2023, because Hwasa had a top 20 song.
It doesn't work that way. In most cases, you cannot put individual and group success in the same bucket. The rules don't change for BLACKPINK.
I only care about what they did in their last group comeback, and Super Shy outlasted both Pink Venom and Shut Down on the Billboard Hot 100.
Like you said, "in most cases," but in BP members' case, their personal success comes from the strength of the group. The fact that this isn't "always" the case for other groups doesn't change this reality.
Anyway, the truth is that BP is far ahead of NJ, and their long-lasting career and continued success prove it.
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if a group's success also reflects on its members, isn't that still the group's success as a whole??
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who is bap?
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Individual success does not and never has been strongly correlated to group success.
The group can lift the individual, but it's very rare the individual lifts the group. That goes for all music, not just K-Pop.
There will never ever be a BLACKPINK song half as success in the West as APT, for instance.
I wasn't really saying the opposite, actually. bp as a group is so strong they draw their strength from the group name. What I mean here is that even though nj has notable successes both in the West and in Korea, the group name doesn't allow its members to have the same level of individual impact.
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they may not be active as a group, but it's a fact that they're the biggest, and no one has ever come close to surpassing them. NewJeans comes close to some extent, but their members don’t have the same individual impact. blackpink has also managed to maintain impressive longevity and success simultaneously.
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agree, and wonder girls did for snsd...
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I’d say at least 75%, 90% feels like an exaggeration
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since Treasure's debut, the most noticeable thing has been YG losing its consistency in producing hit songs. On the other hand, SM is a company that has always managed to include at least one hit song in every girl group it has debuted. That's why my vote goes to H2H. However, even though Illit's latest song wasn't a major hit, being part of a big company gives them the potential to come back with another successful song. anyway fingers crossed for bm.
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while reading their comments, ı get an enfj vibe from Yama and an entp vibe from David. ı think they both make this forum an enjoyable place to read.
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To be honest, I have a hard time deciding because I love 2NE1's songs, but if I had to choose, I’d say I Love You is my favorite. I really like the overall sound of the song i think it’s unique.
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I totally agree with you, and I even think H2H and Kiikii will surpass lsf.
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damn i forgot MADE. Id definitly add it in my favorite albums!
Made is really a legendary album there’s not a single song I dislike or feel unsatisfied with. In fact, this is a common feature in the three albums I consider my favorites. also ı will check your favorites later.
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